Haynes Family Genealogy
Created and Maintained by
Paulette Haynes
Walter and Mary (Watford) Haynes
In the last few years there has been a great deal of interest and speculation concerning the ancestry of William and Richard Haynes of Salem, Massachusetts. Some people are convinced they were the sons of Walter Haynes and Mary Watford who were married 27 Apr 1607 in Renhold, Bedfordshire, England and after the death of Mary in June 1632 and Walter in January 1633, these two boys, ages ten and twelve, were sent or taken to New England. There is, however, no proof or documentation that this actually happened. According to the Renhold, Bedfordshire Parish baptismal records for Walter and Mary, their son Richard Haynes was baptized 18 November 1621 and William on 6 June 1624. The records for Walter and Mary indicate there were five older children in the family and another son named Robert baptized the same day as William. Although Richard was mentioned in Walter's will, William was not and Robert was described as the youngest son. It seems odd that only these two, Richard and William, were transported to New England in 1634 on the "Griffin" and especially in the company of such notable and controversial religious nonconformist as Rev. John Lothrop and Anne Hutchinson. Many sources have stated that after their release from jail, more than 30 members of Rev. John Lothrop's congregation of Southwark, London emigrated to America on the same ship and established their church at Scituate until 1638, then moving to Barnstable. Charles Upham wrote in 1865 the family of William Haynes of Salem was somewhat of a mystery and in my opinion this is still true.
At this point I am not convinced Walter & Mary Haynes of Renhold, Bedfordshire England were the parents of William & Richard Haynes of Salem, Massachusetts. I have seen that Sue Sauls located a will for Walter Haines/Haynes in Renhold, Bedfordshire dated December 1632. Neither the will or the abstract mentions a son William but does mention sons Richard, "youngest son Robert", John and Walter and two daughters. Robert & William supposedly are twins (baptism same date) and it seems strange the parent would mention one but not the other in the will if both were still living. Would it be imprudent to think the children William and Mary died before 1632 and the writing of the will?
It is proven through deed transactions that William & Richard Haynes/Haines of Salem Village, Massachusetts were brothers, and in order for them to be the sons of Walter Haynes they were only 10 and 12 years old when they came to America. This leaves many questions as to why these two were sent or taken to America when they had older siblings and relatives still living in England.
Walter Haynes and Mary Watford married 27 April 1607 Renhold, Bedfordshire, England.
Baptisms (Renhold):
1. Walter Haynes bapt. 5 Feb 1608/1609
2. Joan/Jane Haynes bapt. 20 Oct 1611
3. Mary Haynes bapt. 13 Mar 1613/1614
4. Elizabeth Haynes bapt. 5 Jan 1616/1617
5. John Haynes bapt. 6 Feb 1619/1620
6. Richard Haynes bapt. 18 Nov 1621
7. William Haynes bapt. 6 Jun 1624
8. Robert Haynes bapt. 6 Jun 1624
Parish Deaths (Renhold):
Edward Heynes 5 Apr 1610
Mary w/o Walter Hains 19 Jun 1632
Walter Hains 26 Jan 1632/1633
Walter Haynes, vicar 28 Apr 1638 (W.Haynes vicar of All Saints Church, Renhold, Bedfordshire, 16-- inscription on church plaque)
Parish Marriages (Renhold)
Walter Haynes & Mary Watford, 27 Apr 1607 Renhold, Bedfordshire
Jane Haines & Robert Bundy, 21 Jan 1632 Renhold, Bedfordshire
Baptisms, (Renhold)
Mary Bundy bapt. November 1633 Renhold, dau of Robert Bundy and Mrs. Bundy
Jane Bundy bapt. 10 May 1635 dau. of Rbt. Bundy
Nathaniel Bundy bapt. 11 Jan 1639 son of Robert Bundy; burial 12 Jan 1640
Nathaniel Bundy bapt. 29 Jan 1640/41 son of Robert Bundy and Mrs. Bundy
The will of Walter Haynes of Renhold dated December 1632 does not mention a wife, and as you can see she died in June. (per Sue Sauls)
Youngest son, Robert
Son, Richard
Son, John (all under 21 years old)
Daughter, Elizabeth, under 18
Daughter, Jane, executrix
Eldest son, Walter, overseer of the will
All Saints Church, Renhold, Bedfordshire, England
Notes on the Vicars from 1229 to present
At the time Walter Haynes died in January 1633 his children ages were approximately:
Walter 23years 11 months
Jane 21 years 3 months
Mary 18 years 10 months
Elizabeth 16 years
John 12 years 11 months
Richard 11 years 2 months
William 8 years 7 months
Robert 8 years 7 months
*I don't always believe when two children were baptized on the same day they were necessarily twins.
http://www.all-saints-church-renhold.org/clergylist/clergynotes.htm
Walter Haynes (c.1630-1638)
Walter was born in Renhold on 5th February 1608, the eldest son of Walter Haynes and Mary Watford, who had married at All Saints Church on 27th April 1607. Walter was admitted to Queens College, Cambridge Easter Term 1626 as Walter Haines of Bedfordshire and graduated BA 1629/30 and MA 1633. He probably did not become Vicar of Renhold until 1630, following a long inter regnum, but there are no records to confirm the actual date. Walter’s parents had eight children born in Renhold, two of whom and younger brothers of the Rev. Walter Haynes, emigrated to America. The brothers were Richard, baptised on 18th November 1621 and William, baptised on 6th January 1624. They were aged respectively 12 and 10, and sailed on the “Griffin” arriving in Boston, Massachusetts, on 14th September 1634. On arrival they went to live with the Ingersoll family from Sandy, Bedfordshire, who had emigrated in 1629 and whom the boys and their family must have known in England; the family settled in Haverhill, Massachusetts. William married Sarah Ingersoll in 1644. The descendants of William and Sarah Haynes had incredible adventures with Indians in their early days in America and branches of the family are still there in Canada and the USA. Rev. Walter Haynes sadly died at the early age of 30 and was buried in Renhold churchyard on 28th April 1638.
*It is unfortunate these statements have been written as though they were accurate and documented. At best they are conclusions based on circumstantial evidence, but as it is written now it has become a part of history.
*It has also been written by one researcher (Carl Finch) that he assumed the Haynes brothers, after their arrival in 1634, lived with Richard Ingersoll because Richard Ingersoll came to America with five children and there were nine persons in his household in 1640, thus assuming Richard and William were the additional two persons. However, Richard Ingersoll had two more children, Bathsheba and Nathaniel Ingersoll, born in the New World.
In the 1637 (1640) Salem land grant to Richard Ingersoll (the Abel Lunt genealogy states this grant is not dated) Richard is shown with a family of nine persons. Seven of his children were living at that date, but his eldest daughter Alice was already married to William Walcott and would have been included in her husband's household. The additional person was likely Joseph Houlton, a servant, also lived with Richard Ingersoll. In 1668, Joseph Houlton, age 48 years, testified in court that he was Richard Ingersoll's servant, lived in the house, and helped break up and fence the land and he was living there in 1641. Joseph Houlton later married the widow Sarah Ingersoll Haynes. In 1640 Joseph Houlton/Holton, the Ingersoll servant, would have been nineteen years old.
I believe it is hasty and irresponsible to assume the Hayneses were the two additional persons in the household of Richard Ingersoll, or that the family was acquainted with the Ingersolls before William Haynes married Sarah Ingersoll. After realizing Richard Ingersoll had two additional children born after he emigrated to America, Carl Finch later suggested that only William was living with Richard Ingersoll and the Haynes and Ingersoll families probably knew each other in Bedfordshire. Richard Ingersoll spent most of his married life prior to emigration in Sutton Parish which is about ten miles from Renhold Parish. By automobile this is not a great distance but in 1620, by foot, horse or ox cart, if would be a journey of almost a day. I cannot believe two orphan children would be sent to the New World not knowing if the Ingersoll family, who had migrated five years earlier, from a different parish, would take them into their household. Could the Ingersoll family have known of Walter Haynes death and made arrangements prior to emigrating to America?
What became of the other children in Walter and Mary's family. If anything, a logical conclusion would be the youngest orphan children went to live with another relative, either Haynes, Watford or Bundye. It is also difficult believe these two boys, who were younger brothers of the church vicar, would be sent to the New World on a ship of exiled religious non-comformist.
William Haynes appeared to be financially established by 1644 when he purchased land jointly with his father-in-law Richard Ingersoll (Charles Upham, Vo. 2 p. 139), but if he was born in 1624 he was only twenty years old at that time and perhaps even younger when he married Sarah Ingersoll. Richard Haynes acted as a bondsman for Daniel Hutchins in 1640 indicating he was financially established by that time but if he was born in 1621 he was only nineteen years old. I wonder how these two men gain this financial security to purchase land and secure bonds at such a young age. There are no records for Richard & William Haynes during the period 1634 to 1640 but early records are very scarce. It's possible they lived in Boston or somewhere else before 1640.
In 1677, Richard Haynes described himself and his wife Mary as "ancient". If Mary Pease Haynes was the mother of all the Pease children it appears she was older Richard Haynes and possibly born around 1608. If Richard Haynes was born in 1621 he was about 56 years of age in 1677. I am not sure 56 years qualifies as "ancient". There were men and women of Salem who lived well into their seventies.
Why is it thought Richard and William Haynes came from Bedfordshire, England?
Charles Banks, the author of Planters of the Commonwealth, listed 41 passengers arriving on the ship "Griffin" at Boston on September 18, 1634. This apparently is an incomplete list since it was mentioned in Governor Winthrop's journal for an entry of Sept. 18, 1634 "The Griffin and another ship now arriving with about 200 passengers. Mr. Lathrop and Mr. Sims, two godly ministers coming in the same ship". Charles Banks attached to passengers Richard and William Haynes the note they were "from Dunstable, Bedfordshire" but gave no source for the information. Dunstable is not in the same area as Renhold Parish although it is in the same "shire".
Aspinwalls Notarial Records of Early Boston, Vol. 32 has the following record:
25 (9) 1645: A tre of Atturney from William Haynes to Thomas Haynes Col, mercht living at the white beare in Basin lane in London to receive a debt of 28 . of Thomas Perkins of Dunstable in Bedfordshire chandlor, with power to substitute another atturney. witnes, John Newton, Thomas Liskume:
This transaction indicates a possible relationship between William Haynes of New England, to Thomas Haynes who has been reported in references migrating shortly afterwards and settling 1658 in Maine and later at Amesbury, Massachusetts. Thus it could be suggested Thomas Haynes was a relative of William Haynes. Apparently Charles Banks used Aspinwalls Notes to pinpoint Dunstable, Bedfordshire as the homeplace of William and Richard Haynes in Topographical Dictionary of English Emigrants to New England, Bedfordshire page 1. This book was published in 1937, after the death of Mr. Banks, and was compiled using the manuscripts in his library. The source reference given for William Haynes and Richard Haines was "Aspinwall". Charles Banks was referring to the records that William Aspinwall kept at Boston as notary from 1644 to 1651 which were published in a volume entitled A Volume Relating to the Early History of Boston Containing the Aspinwall Notorial Records from 1644 to 1651, Boston Record Commissioners' Reports 32, (Boston, 1903). This document, which is found in Aspinwall's Notarial Records, however, does not indicate William Haynes was actually from Dunstable, Bedfordshire but was attempting to collect a debt at Dunstable, Bedfordshire. Thomas Perkins, on the other hand, was a resident of Dunstable, Bedfordshire. This document does not indicate William Haynes was from Salem, and perhaps this is something Mr. Banks had concluded because there were no other persons by that name in the area at that time.
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