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09/02/98 - The Spiritual Foundations Of The Clinton Scandal - Part 3

LivingEM: Praise the Lord, everybody!

LivingEM: Does anyone have any comments or questions on the Clinton Scandal?

LivingEM: Nobody?

LivingEM: What do you think about running the government by the polls?

Myprecous1: they can`t be trusted

DANIEL42: I don't belive in it, I don't even believe the polls are accurate

LivingEM: Well, I agree with you both.

LivingEM: But aside from that, do you think our elected officials are

supposed to be governing

LivingEM: according to the polls?

DANIEL42: no, not at all

Myprecous1: No war

Myprecous1: no way

LivingEM: So how do you think this idea has gotten into the heads of the

American people?

Myprecous1: from pride

DANIEL42: by long term use of the polls, we've become insensitive?

LivingEM: pride is the answer.

LivingEM: The American people are eating up this lie.

LivingEM: It makes them feel as if they are the ones in control.

JSNGSNG: the leaders have initiated it

LivingEM: But they have no idea that they are being manipulated and seduced

by immoral leaders.

LivingEM: You may have heard the word "spin" used,if you are watching the

interview programs.

LivingEM: Does anyone know what "spin" means?

DANIEL42: does it mean interpreting something for us?

Myprecous1: turn your heads

LivingEM: "Spin" means propoganda

LivingEM: Does anyone know what propaganda means?

Myprecous1: a bunch of lies

LivingEM: Yes.

DANIEL42: the spreading of ideas or info to further or damage a cause

JSNGSNG: lies sent out

LivingEM: Propaganda is lies put forth as the truth.

LivingEM: Daniel - true, but false ideas

LivingEM: And what happens, when our mind is overrun with lies?

JSNGSNG: we begin to believe it

LivingEM: Yes. we begin to believe it, and then it becomes "gospel" to us.

LivingEM: And who are the Bible characters that this happened to?

LivingEM: Which 2 of Noah's sons?

DANIEL42: shem and japheth

JSNGSNG: Shem & Japheth

LivingEM: yes.

Myprecous1: shen andjaphet

LivingEM: They made an active choice to spin forth the lie,

LivingEM: and then the day came that they thought that their lie was the

truth.

LivingEM: What kind of a mind is overtaken by lies?

JSNGSNG: Carnal mind

LivingEM: This is true, but not of every carnal mind.

LivingEM: The emotional mind.

JSNGSNG: carnal mind without righteousness

LivingEM: yes.

LivingEM: We were talking about "spin" being propaganda.

LivingEM: It is the female mind that is seduced.

LivingEM: The male mind can be tricked.

LivingEM: To be seduced, is to be wholly overcome by a mind that is stronger

than yours.

LivingEM: To be tricked implies that we have the power to overcome the

deception, but do not.

LivingEM: What predisposes us to being tricked?

JSNGSNG: 95% truth and 1% lie

LivingEM: Confusion. Yes this is a true device of the trickster.

LivingEM: But what predisposes the one who is tricked, to be tricked?

LivingEM: What is the weakness?

LivingEM: What weakness is in the one who is tricked?

JSNGSNG: passivity

LivingEM: Passivity would fall under the category of a female mind.

LivingEM: You, see, Christ can be tricked.

LivingEM: The one who is tricked, is the one

LivingEM: who is really rejecting the truth, but won't admit it.

LivingEM: The dishonest person is the one who is tricked.

LivingEM: He is tricked by himself, more than by the trickster.

LivingEM: We can be tricked or seduced when we are in our carnal mind.

LivingEM: Because our carnal mind can be either male or female.

LivingEM: Has any of you read the study in 1 Cor 11 that I sent around?

DANIEL42: yes

LivingEM: It is a very important study. I hope the rest of you find the time

to look at it.

LivingEM: Is there anyone who hasn't received it?

LivingEM: Yes, the carnal mind is male and female.

Myprecous1: I read it also

LivingEM: The personality is female to the spiritual part of the carnal mind.

LivingEM: What is the name of the spiritual part of the carnal mind?

DANIEL42: Leviathan?

LivingEM: You have the general idea, but the fiery serpent

JSNGSNG: fiery serpent

LivingEM: in the individual is the spiritual part of that individual's carnal

mind.

LivingEM: Do you know that the people who are in conscious submission to the

fiery serpent

LivingEM: frequently have all of their needs met?

LivingEM: It is the people who think that they are in submission to Christ,

but really serve their

LivingEM: carnal mind, that have all of the problems.

LivingEM: The personality that is in submission to their spiritual mind,

LivingEM: that means, they do whatever He in the case of Christ,

LivingEM: or she, in the case of the fiery serpent,

LivingEM: tells them, and they prosper.

LivingEM: Does anybody not know that the Scripture teaches this?

LivingEM: One of the psalms is headed up in my Open Bible

LivingEM: by the caption, the mystery of the prosperous wicked.

LivingEM: The most dangerous condition we can be in, is a state of mind

LivingEM: where we are deceiving ourselves.

LivingEM: When we deceive ourself, every one else has an open door to deceive

us.

LivingEM: Honesty is essential to spiritual health.

LivingEM: I am talking about the manly mind now.

LivingEM: But, remember,

LivingEM: America has been subjcted to feminizing forces for many years now.

OnlineHost: ToDaNow has entered the room.

LivingEM: and it appears that the majority of the masses of people, are

losing

LivingEM: or have lost their ability to distinguish between right and wrong.

LivingEM: When you lose your ability to distinguish between right and wrong,

you

LivingEM: become fair game for any "spin" that comes your way.

LivingEM: You respond to the lie, that the decision of what happens to Mr.

Clinton is up to the

LivingEM: American people, for instance.

LivingEM: Brethren, our representatives in congress have been elected

LivingEM: because they, supposedly, have the LEGAL and MORAL knowledge to run

the

LivingEM: legislative branch of government.

LivingEM: They are MORALLY OBLIGATED to follow their conscience.

LivingEM: They are in Washington to represent us, because we are not

qualified

LivingEM: to run the affairs of State.

LivingEM: It is their job to be an example for us.

LivingEM: It is their job to educate us, the masses, when we are ignorant.

LivingEM: The uneducated spiritually male mind, seeks information.

LivingEM: The Christian spiritual male can ask Christ Jesus' opinion.

LivingEM: It is the Female Opinion that is reigning in the polls today -- if

they are accurate.

LivingEM: The Female Opinion believes what "sounds right."

LivingEM: Now, being told that the American people have the decision making

power, sure makes an

LivingEM: emotionl mind "feel right."

LivingEM: But this is a lie.

LivingEM: Unscrupulous men have manipulated women since the dawn of time.

LivingEM: Today, there is an unscrupulous male mind in power in this country,

LivingEM: and they are doing everything they can to make the citizens of this

LivingEM: country fall back into their emotional mind.

LivingEM: And all those American citizens, who are fallen back into their

female mind, both physical

LivingEM: males and physical females,

LivingEM: We we talking about the collective spiritual male in the White

house

LivingEM: manipulating and seducing the spiritually female part of the

American public.

LivingEM: I remind you, that Jesus says that the male is to

LivingEM: love the female as Christ loves the Church.

LivingEM: The one in authority is to love those under him like Christ loves

LivingEM: the Church.

LivingEM: How does Christ love the Church?

LivingEM: open for answers

JSNGSNG: He gave His life for the church

Myprecous1: he puts a spiritual over us

LivingEM: Yes, but right now, in our everyday lives, how does Christ love us?

ToDaNow: my expressing Himself through the Chruch

LivingEM: How does He affect our lives?

LivingEM: Yes, you are all right, but i am looking for some specific ways

that He

LivingEM: shows His love for us.

Myprecous1: He protects us

LivingEM: He tells us the truth, for one.

DANIEL42: he teaches us and gives us counsel

LivingEM: Yes, He teaches us and gives us counsel.

ToDaNow: by killing the carnal mind when it rises

JSNGSNG: He makes a way where there is no way

LivingEM: Yes, He kills our carnal mind, so that Christ can rise in us.

LivingEM: JSNG - how does he relate to us specifically.

LivingEM: I think that if we want to generalize, we would have to say that

LivingEM: He does whatever necessary to grow us up to be

LivingEM: moral, intelligent, supernatural men.

LivingEM: Let's not forget righteous.

LivingEM: I have never seen the Lord punish anyone.

LivingEM: He does not have to. We punish ourselves, with our own foolishness.

LivingEM: He tells us the right way, the right thing to do.

LivingEM: If we can't hear Him that well, He gives us counsellors, and

leaders, who hear Him

LivingEM: and minister His instructions in spoken language.

LivingEM: If we don't listen to Him, if we don't take the correction,

LivingEM: we subject ourselves to Satan's judgment.

LivingEM: The mercy of Christ to us is the Word of Truth,

LivingEM: spoken in language that we can understand,

LivingEM: by Christ in the flesh of a human being, who can answer our

questions.

LivingEM: I have been telling the Lord for years, one of the hardest things

about this walk for me

LivingEM: is that He does not always respond immediately, like

LivingEM: in a human conversation, although He does some of the time.

LivingEM: So, based on what I have just told you, what is the male mind in

Washington supposed

LivingEM: to doing with respect to the spiritually female part of the

population?

ToDaNow: forming the serpent mind

JSNGSNG: Suppose to tell the truth

LivingEM: Yes. He is supposed to be educating them.

DANIEL42: to be a moral leader

LivingEM: Yes.

Myprecous1: he is supposed to eait until he gets a clear answer

LivingEM: one minute

LivingEM: Myprecous, the question is, how is he supposed to be relating to

the female?

LivingEM: He is supposed to be telling her the truth, educating her,

Myprecous1: oh by teaching them good morals

LivingEM: setting a moral example for her.

ToDaNow: i didn't understand the question. The male mind is join with the

female mind to form Christ

LivingEM: Yes.

LivingEM: ToDaNow. This is true, but the male mind in Washington is the male

aspect of the carnal mind

LivingEM: I think you missed what was said about that.

LivingEM: I sent out a study on 1 Cor. 11 about thi.

LivingEM: The carnal mind can be male or female.

LivingEM: Not to repeat everything that was said earlier, the male

LivingEM: part of the carnal mind is rational

LivingEM: and the female carnal mind is emotional.

LivingEM: Not the male part, but the carnal mind that is male.

LivingEM: or in a male role.

LivingEM: There is a spiritually male carnal mind in Washington today,

LivingEM: which is abusing the spiritually female population of the

LivingEM: American people.

LivingEM: They should be loving her, teaching her, setting a moral example

for her,

LivingEM: but instead they are seducing and manipulating her,

LivingEM: to satisfy their own ends.

LivingEM: We started out this message taling about "spin."

LivingEM: The Republicans talk about the Democratic "spin,"

LivingEM: and the Democrats talk about the Republican "spin."

LivingEM: What is going on here, and how can we rightly divide the truth of

this?

LivingEM: It is possible that both parties are lying, spewing out this

propaganda,

LivingEM: but we know that at least one group is.

LivingEM: I shouldn't have said "parties" above.

LivingEM: I don't mean that all the members of any party are involved in

this.

LivingEM: There are two groups involved in this crisis. Actually,

LivingEM: there are three.

LivingEM: There is the group that is truly spinning out the propaganda

LivingEM: that is seducing and manipulating the female minds of America,

LivingEM: There is the group of female minded Americans,

LivingEM: and there is the group of spiritually male-minded Americans.

LivingEM: Every male minded American, is not necessarily a Christian.

LivingEM: And as much as I disagree with much of the doctrines of the

Catholic Church,

LivingEM: I cannot deny that there are many moral Catholics.

LivingEM: hold on

LivingEM: Ghandi had a spiritually male mind, but I cannot see how it could

have been Christ.

LivingEM: Does anyone know who Ghandi was?

JSNGSNG: Leader in India?

LivingEM: Yes

Myprecous1: Yes he was an Induan leader

ToDaNow: Yes

LivingEM: Martin Luther King adopted Ghandi's "passive resistance" methods.

LivingEM: This discussion emphasizes how easily the uneducated

LivingEM: person can be confused about Christ.

LivingEM: There is morality outside of Christ.

LivingEM: There is no righteousness outside of Christ, but

LivingEM: there is morality outside of Christ.

LivingEM: How do we recognize righteousness?

JSNGSNG: Its all truth

LivingEM: Righteousness is truly immortal.

LivingEM: Jesus was proven to be righteous, because

Myprecous1: It is not self satisifying

LivingEM: the only thing that died when He was crucified, was His carnal

mind,

LivingEM: and His physical body, which is the image of

LivingEM: the carnal midn.

LivingEM: Myprecous-that is true, but it does not prove righteousness.

Myprecous1: Ok

LivingEM: Is there anyone here willing to undergo the test for righteousness?

LivingEM: Is there anyone here who thinks they would survive the test for

righteousness?

ToDaNow: No

LivingEM: You don't have to be crucified. How about poison?

Myprecous1: I know that I am not

LivingEM: Well, not me, for sure.

ToDaNow: Are saying that to be the righteousness of Christ we must be

immortal?

LivingEM: Yes.

LivingEM: We can have that righteousness within us,

LivingEM: but we, ourselves, are not righteous,until that

LivingEM: righteousness is so mingled with every aspect of

LivingEM: ourselves, that our carnal mind ceases to function.

LivingEM: So long as our carnal mind is living through us in any way,

LivingEM: we are spiritually polluted.

LivingEM: This is why we much CHOOSE to agree with

LivingEM: our Righeous Side.

LivingEM: If we do not agree with our Righteous Side, we automatically

default to our

LivingEM: carnal mind.

LivingEM: Who is our Righteous Side?

JSNGSNG: Christ Jesus

LivingEM: Yes.

LivingEM: We are two-sided men.

LivingEM: James calls us double minded.

LivingEM: We have two minds, if Christ is formed in us.

LivingEM: But there's a catch.

LivingEM: They are not two completely separate minds.

LivingEM: They are siamese twins.

LivingEM: Who knows what siamese twins are?

Myprecous1: Joined togethrer

LivingEM: Yes.

DANIEL42: one body, two heads

ToDaNow: Two bodies joined together from the spine

LivingEM: Siamese twins can be joined anywhere.

LivingEM: Where are the carnal and the Christ Mind joined?

JSNGSNG: In the heart center?

LivingEM: Some siamese twins share the same heart

ToDaNow: In the spirit mInd

LivingEM: No. Mind is not restricted to any one energy center.

LivingEM: Yes. In the spirit of the mind.

LivingEM: The carnal mind and the Christ Mind share the same spirit.

LivingEM: And also the same personality.

LivingEM: And the same physical body.

LivingEM: But the spirit of the mind is the key.

LivingEM: Because the mind that controls the human spirit

LivingEM: forms the personality.

LivingEM: So, we have a corrupt male mind in the White House,

LivingEM: a group of spiritually male Americans who recognize the truth

LivingEM: about the mistreatment of the American people,

LivingEM: and a group of spiritually female [both physical males and females]

LivingEM: Americans,

LivingEM: who are in agreement with their abuser.

LivingEM: They love their abuser, and enable him.

LivingEM: I hope I have made it clear, that this male mind in the White

House, is not just Mr Clinton,

LivingEM: although he is the head of it,

LivingEM: but the whole political machine that Mr. Clinton controls.

LivingEM: And this corrupt male mind has thrown all reason and law to the

wind,

LivingEM: and is "spinning" out the lies that they want

LivingEM: the American people to believe

LivingEM: Such as,

LivingEM: anybody?

ToDaNow: it's only about sex

LivingEM: Yes.

DANIEL42: it's his private life

LivingEM: It's okay to lie under oath, if it's about sex.

Myprecous1: Not the real truth

ToDaNow: he have told the truth, leave him alone

LivingEM: Myprecous - I'm asking for specific lies that the Clinton machine

is "spinning out."

LivingEM: Yes.

LivingEM: Leave him alone.

LivingEM: Forget that he broke the law.

LivingEM: Can you believe that? Forget that he broke the law?

Myprecous1: about w

LivingEM: What about abuse of power?

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LivingEM: Whatever Monica Lewinsky may, or may not be,

LivingEM: she was a 21 year old intern.

LivingEM: If she was chasing Mr. Clinton down the hall, it

LivingEM: naked, it was his responsibility to cover her, not to take

advantage of her.

LivingEM: We do not have to take everything that is offered to us.

LivingEM: Mr. Clinton is the President of the United States.

LivingEM: He is supposed to be the moral leader of this country.

LivingEM: The example for our children.

LivingEM: Members of the armed forces have lost their jobs

LivingEM: over the very same crime.

LivingEM: Their jobs and their careers.

LivingEM: Any corporate executive would have been fired for agreeing to this

relationship.

LivingEM: So we see that the "spin" looks at the relationship

LivingEM: and not the dynamics behind the relationship.

LivingEM: They are saying, let's just sweep the moral issues

LivingEM: under the rug.

LivingEM: I would like to relate what i just said about Mr. Clinton covering

Monica

LivingEM: Lewinsky, to the spiritual cover of Christ.

LivingEM: Can anyone explain the spiritual cover of Christ, and how it

LivingEM: wards off the Satanic judgment?

LivingEM: The spiritual cover of Christ operates through

LivingEM: counsel, or a verbalized warning.

ToDaNow: Exposing the wrong with the mind of Christ, and not agree with the

their actions

LivingEM: Yes.

LivingEM: It is counsel and/or warning in spoken language that says,

LivingEM: this is wrong. If you do it, you will be unleashing

LivingEM: something that will bring consequences into your life.

LivingEM: If you continue on, despite the counsel/warning, you will have to

reap what you have sown.

LivingEM: The spiritual elder covers the spiritual youth.

LivingEM: Obedience to the word of caution immediately

LivingEM: destroys Satan's plans to bring destruction into your life.

LivingEM: Of course God loves you, and will help you out of your

LivingEM: dilemma,

LivingEM: but who needs all of the grief?

LivingEM: Seductions flow towards us continually,

LivingEM: and you will find that when you reach a certain place in Christ

LivingEM: [only the Lord knows when]

LivingEM: He will use you to protect ignorant people through counsel.

LivingEM: I have a testimony.

LivingEM: I was on the check out line in Kaldor Dep't. Store.

LivingEM: I didn't even intend to go there. It was a last minute decision.

LivingEM: The cashier was a very young man. I would say 18 years old.

LivingEM: He was feeling his oats that day.

LivingEM: He looked at my credit card and said to me,

LivingEM: do you know our store manager? His name is Vitale also.

LivingEM: I said, no, i don't know him.

LivingEM: The young man said, well why don't you say you do, so that

LivingEM: I can give you a discount?

LivingEM: He appeared serious to me. He was showing off for some reason.

LivingEM: Christ Jesus rose up in me and said, "that is stealing."

LivingEM: "You shouldn't do that."

LivingEM: Now why do I say that Christ Jesus rose up in me?

LivingEM: Couldn't it have been me?

LivingEM: I know that that is wrong, and would be stealing.

LivingEM: Yes, it could have been me, Sheila, the personality,

LivingEM: but it wasn't. It was Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: If it were me, he would have received a correction which he may or

may not

LivingEM: have heeded.

LivingEM: When Christ Jesus speaks, spiritual seeds are imparted with the

words of language.

LivingEM: Power is imparted to deliver.

LivingEM: I am as sure as I can be, without actually being told,

LivingEM: that the young man or his parents, or some close relatives are

Christians who

LivingEM: are praying for that young man.

LivingEM: I, by yielding to Christ Jesus within me, covered that young man's

sins.

LivingEM: If it had been my personality alone, I still would have covered his

sins.

LivingEM: By refusing his offer, I prevented him from committing a crime.

LivingEM: When parents forbid their children to do something foolish or

dangerous,

LivingEM: prevents them from racking up some negative points in the sowing

and reaping judgment.

LivingEM: A husband can cover his wife this way.

LivingEM: Do you know that it is the law of the land [or at least it used to

be]

LivingEM: that if you buy something from a high pressure salesman,

LivingEM: and you are under age, they must give you your money back.

LivingEM: According to the Scripture,

LivingEM: a husband or a father can nullify his wife or daughter's oath.

LivingEM: Anything foolish that a wife or daughter does, can be denied by her

husband or her father,

LivingEM: as if she never said it.

LivingEM: This is the ministry of the true male.

LivingEM: He protects the female.

LivingEM: He does not take advantage of her weaknesses.

LivingEM: When I was a disciple, there was a married couple

LivingEM: who were ministers that visited our church.

LivingEM: The woman was very anointed.

LivingEM: Moreso than the man.

LivingEM: But, at the very least, they both had a relationship with the Holy

Spirit.

LivingEM: The woman had completely given up the wisdom that the Holy

LivingEM: Spirit was giving her.

LivingEM: Sorry. the Holy Spirit does not give wisdom.

LivingEM: Let's just say she was very capable, but submitted herself

LivingEM: to her husband in areas where she was more capable than he was.

LivingEM: She became passive, saying, whatever he decides is

LivingEM: okay with me.

LivingEM: This does not honor Christ.

LivingEM: Rebellion is never of God, but there are ways to deal with such a

situation.

LivingEM: Brethren, the spiritual male is wherever he is appearing.

LivingEM: And every spiritual male is to live up to his responsibilities to

the fullest extent

LivingEM: possible.

LivingEM: With regard to the members of his physical and spiritual family,

LivingEM: and with regard to the whole Body of Christ, the country and the

world.

LivingEM: As Christ leads us.

LivingEM: We have a treasure hidden in the earth of our personalities.

LivingEM: It is to be dispensed as Christ sees fit.

LivingEM: A Godly man would never stop his wife from ministering Christ.

LivingEM: The spiritual elder covers the spiritual youth.

LivingEM: We have to look at the mind, not the physical body.

LivingEM: Everyone who does not have a spiritual cover,

LivingEM: is a spiritual widow and a spiritual orphan.

LivingEM: Christ will cover you directly if you can hear Him.

LivingEM: You may be able to hear Him in some areas and not in others,

LivingEM: It is great grace to be able to discern the areas

LivingEM: in which you are not hearing from the Lord directly.

LivingEM: In the event that the counsel is given and rejected,

LivingEM: the spiritual youth opens themself to the sowing and reaping

judgment.

LivingEM: The elder's hands are clean.

LivingEM: But in the event that the elder doesn't intervene,

LivingEM: he comes under the same sowing and reaping judgment and the

spiritual youth.

LivingEM: It doesn't matter whether our intervention is welcomed or not.

LivingEM: It doesn't even matter if the spiritual youth hates us and calls us

names.

LivingEM: The only thing that matters is our service to Christ.

LivingEM: I am in no way justifying Monica Lewinsky. She needs spiritual

counselling.

LivingEM: But Mr. Clinton has the greater sin.

LivingEM: The most powerful man in the world contributed

LivingEM: to her delinquency.

LivingEM: The elder always has the greater weight of the responsibility.

LivingEM: We do not live for ourselves, brethren.

LivingEM: The sons of God are anonymous.

LivingEM: They go where the wind blows them.

LivingEM: Our ministry is to the spiritual widow and the spiritual orphan.

LivingEM: The physical woman whose husband does not cover her, is a

LivingEM: spiritual widow.

LivingEM: The Christian whose pastor does not cover them is a spiritual

orphan.

LivingEM: There is much work to do.

LivingEM: But it must be Christ in us who does it.

LivingEM: So Mr. Clinton, the most powerful man in the world,

LivingEM: took up the offer of a morally disturbed young woman.

LivingEM: How can anyone say, let's get on with the work of the country?

LivingEM: Mr. Clinton has not admitted most of things that he has done wrong.

LivingEM: In any event, he has committed crimes, according to the law of the

US Government.

LivingEM: Are we to forget about them?

LivingEM: And send the little guy to jail?

LivingEM: Look at how the situation has been completely reversed.

LivingEM: Mr. Clinton is supposed to be the moral example for th nation and

our children.

LivingEM: But Mr. Clinton can lie under oath, and the Female Opinion says,

LivingEM: that's okay, Bill, we love you. Let's get on with it.

LivingEM: All those other guys are picking on you.

LivingEM: The interviewer I was watching today, went out into the streets

LivingEM: and asked people if it is proven that Mr. Clinton commited a crime,

LivingEM: should he be taken out of office.

LivingEM: the only ones who said yes were two children.

LivingEM: They were about 12 years old.

LivingEM: The present scandal should bypass partisanship.

LivingEM: The stand that one takes should have nothing to do with what

political party you belong to.

LivingEM: This "sweep it under the rug" idea

LivingEM: is a typical alcoholic response.

LivingEM: Forget about it, and let's get on with it.

LivingEM: The only problem is that it doesn't work.

LivingEM: Everything that we do, every stand that we take,

LivingEM: has a reaction.

LivingEM: Everything we do not deal with remains unresolved in the spirit.

LivingEM: And if it remains unresolved long enough, there is an explosion.

LivingEM: In the mean time people are walking around wounded and many don't

even know it.

LivingEM: I saw this principle demonstrated in an excellent movie.

LivingEM: It took place in India.

LivingEM: The main character was an Indian medical doctor.

LivingEM: He was educated, but very socially naive.

LivingEM: History says that there was a lot of prejudice against the Indians

LivingEM: by the occupying Brittish.

LivingEM: The doctor wanted nothing more than to be accepted by his Brittish

LivingEM: colleagues.

LivingEM: The long and the short of it is that the doctor was accused of rape

by a Brittissh woman.

LivingEM: It was not true.

LivingEM: All of his Brittish friends turned against him, except one man.

LivingEM: No one was willing to go to court for him, and say

LivingEM: they couldn't believe that he would do such a thing.

LivingEM: The woman eventually told the truth and the man was freed,

LivingEM: but he was wounded severely.

LivingEM: He left the big city in India and went into the hills to treat

LivingEM: poor Indians.

LivingEM: All of his Brittish friends who really didn't believe that he did

it,

LivingEM: but would not face the persecution of standing with him,

LivingEM: tried to be friends with him again,

LivingEM: but he would have nothing to do with them,

LivingEM: including the one British man who testified for him.

LivingEM: The Indian doctor through out his one Brittish friend with the rest

of the false ones.

LivingEM: The Brittish friend was deeply hurt.

LivingEM: He had experienced severe persecution for this doctor.

LivingEM: The intersting part is that this man wasn't the best

LivingEM: of friends in good time. Just average.

LivingEM: The stand he took was for righteousness.

LivingEM: He would not do what was wrong, no matter who it was that was being

persecuted.

LivingEM: And the reward of this man who was willing to be persecuted

LivingEM: for righteousness sake, was that his Indian friend

LivingEM: wanted nothing to do with him.

LivingEM: The true friend went back to England, but never got over

LivingEM: the rejection from the Indian doctor. This unresolved issue stayed

LivingEM: with the true friend for years.

LivingEM: It was an unresolved issue.

LivingEM: Brethren, we must resolve our issues.

LivingEM: Evasion never works.

LivingEM: The problem exists in the spirit for generations.

LivingEM: If we don't reconcile while we know what is wrong,

LivingEM: our children inherit our spiritual problems, but they don't know

how

LivingEM: to fix it because they don't have any idea of where it came from.

LivingEM: Unresolved issues are deadly -- but it can take years fr

LivingEM: these hidden time bombs to go off.

LivingEM: Well, finally the true friend decided to go back

LivingEM: to India and look for the doctor.

LivingEM: At this point the true friend was as offended as the doctor.

LivingEM: He went back to India and made the big trip up into the

LivingEM: mountains where there were no Europeans.

LivingEM: The doctor who wanted to be accepted into European society more

than anything, now

LivingEM: wanted nothing to do with Europeans,even the ones who went out on a

limb for him.

LivingEM: The ending of the movie was very moving.

LivingEM: When the two men faced each other after all of these years,

LivingEM: both of their hearts melted.

LivingEM: They embraced and reconciled.

LivingEM: That unresolved issue that was "hanging there" in the spirit,

dissolved.

LivingEM: Both men could have peace.

LivingEM: The time bomb had been dismantled.

LivingEM: It could never go off now.

LivingEM: The interesting part about this is,

LivingEM: that the Brittish man went back to England and they never saw

LivingEM: each other again.

LivingEM: But this "thing" that was hanging between them,

LivingEM: was resolved and dissolved.

LivingEM: The Scripture says that we must account for every word we speak

LivingEM: I never used to believe it, but it's true.

LivingEM: If we say or do something that wounds somebody,

LivingEM: no matter howminor it is, if we don't admit that we

LivingEM: did something wrong and apologize, that issue is

LivingEM: swept under the spiritual rug and it festers there.

LivingEM: It may not start a fire in your generation, but your children will

inherit it.

LivingEM: Yet, it may start a fire in your generation, and if you

LivingEM: are in denial you may be wringing your hands saying, woe is me,

LivingEM: i have served the Lord faithfully all of these years,

LivingEM: how could this happen to me?

LivingEM: Every evil thing that happens to you, brethren, is the just

recompense of either your sin,

LivingEM: or your ancestor's sin.

LivingEM: This is the truth.

LivingEM: The heathen knows it.

LivingEM: But the Christians don't.

LivingEM: The Buddhists know it.

LivingEM: The Hindus know it.

LivingEM: But the Christians think it is a Satan outside of themself.

LivingEM: It is Satan, alright, their own unconscious mind, executing

LivingEM: the sowing and reaping judgment on them. The only way out,

LivingEM: brethren, is to walk as blamelessly as possible,

LivingEM: and when we are not blameless to admit it promptly.

LivingEM: Then apologize, and make restitution.

LivingEM: Ask how the issue canbe resolved.

LivingEM: Maybe there is something you have to do.

LivingEM: You see, when you refuse to take responsibility for something that

LivingEM: you failed to do, whether you intend to do it or not,

LivingEM: you have blamed the other person for your failure.

LivingEM: And the other person carries a would because of this.

LivingEM: wound

LivingEM: Whether they realize it or not, they are carrying your sin.

LivingEM: We cannot judge other people's sins if we are living like this.

LivingEM: If you want to be a son of God, you have to be doing everything

LivingEM: that you can to be blameless, and when you do wrong,

LivingEM: or do not keep your word,

LivingEM: or do not keep your promise to do something in a timely manner,

LivingEM: the Lord requires you to admit it and apologize.

LivingEM: If you can't accomplish this much in your life, you cannot judge

the sins of the spiritual

LivingEM: youths that sons of God are supposed to be covering.

LivingEM: Do not be deceived, God is not mocked.

LivingEM: Your sin will surely find you out.

LivingEM: Don't be deceived because you have ministry on some level.

LivingEM: As I said at the beginning of this message.

LivingEM: I have never seen the Lord punish anyone.

LivingEM: He just loves you and meets your needs right up to

LivingEM: the minute that Satan hurls the judgment against you.

LivingEM: I sent a memo around recommending the movie called the "Apostle."

LivingEM: I hope you all got it. It makes this point excellently.

LivingEM: Every sin will have its just recompense. We don't get away with

anything.

LivingEM: Every action will have a reaction.

LivingEM: no matter how long it takes for that reaction to manifest.

LivingEM: This nation is reaping some bad things today.

LivingEM: But our hope is that Christ Jesus will cover us

LivingEM: with corrective judgment.

LivingEM: I don't know exactly how it will manifest. All that I

LivingEM: know is that we have moved out from under the Lord's cover as a

nation,

LivingEM: and are experiencing the sowing and reaping judgment.

LivingEM: I also believe that the Lord received this nation as His Son

LivingEM: in it's infancy, and that He is fighting for us even now.

LivingEM: I believe that good things will arise out of the evil that is

appearing today,

LivingEM: but not withut much pain and destruction.

LivingEM: The whole world waits for the manifestation of the sons of God,

LivingEM: and the Lord Jesus waits for us to stop being evasive,

LivingEM: and dishonest,

LivingEM: and to start telling the truth,

LivingEM: and facing the truth about ourelves, as He reveals it.

LivingEM: God help us all, because those who He has called will be

LivingEM: purified one way or the other,

LivingEM: the easy way or the hard way,

LivingEM: because the Lord Jesus will save this country and

LivingEM: the whole human race from destruction, despite ourselves.

LivingEM: The judgment of the Lord Jesus Christ is corrective,

LivingEM: but not without pain.

LivingEM: If we resist it, we fall into the hands of the sowing and reaping

judgment,

LivingEM: mediated by Satan.

LivingEM: The Lord willhave a church without wrinkle or spot,

LivingEM: one way or the other.

LivingEM: Let God be true, and every man a liar.

LivingEM: No one deceives God, or His sons.

LivingEM: You only deceive your self and the spiritual women.

LivingEM: Righteousness will be seen, saith the Lord.

LivingEM: I am a righteous God.

LivingEM: I will cover you, saith the Lord,

LivingEM: for what man has ever hated his own flesh?

LivingEM: But I am a holy God.

LivingEM: Your sins I will not receive.

LivingEM: Even though you refuse to see them.

LivingEM: The hour is short.

LivingEM: The enemy comes in like a flood.

LivingEM: I will make my public appearance shortly,

LivingEM: You shall see me in my glory,

LivingEM: Where will you be when I appear?

LivingEM: Will I find faith in your earth?

LivingEM: Or will I see your carnal mind?

LivingEM: Fear not, I am full well able to deliver you.

LivingEM: This turned out to be a very serious message today.

LivingEM: Are there any comments or questions?

ToDaNow: yes

LivingEM: okay

ToDaNow: Forgiveness entered my mind

LivingEM: forgiveness for someone else?

ToDaNow: When a person say Lord forgive me, they expect Him to forgive them

now

LivingEM: There are two stages of forgiveness.

LivingEM: The first is by faith, the Lord says, I forgive you son.

LivingEM: But you can't continue to do that.

LivingEM: So I will fully forgive you by removing your potential

LivingEM: to do that sin again.

LivingEM: The true forgiveness of sins is the surgical removal of our

LivingEM: potential to commit that sin.

LivingEM: This is how Jesus could say to the adulterous woman,

LivingEM: go and sin no more.

LivingEM: What if she didn't obey Him?

LivingEM: She would find herself being stoned again.

LivingEM: This is the sowing and reaping judgment.

LivingEM: But when Jesus forgives you, he cuts away from your

LivingEM: spirit and your mind,

LivingEM: all potential to do that sin again.

LivingEM: This is the true forgivess of sin.

LivingEM: The first stage, forgiveness by faith,

LivingEM: gives us the strength to resist the sin.

LivingEM: This means that if we exercise our strength in Christ Jesus,

LivingEM: we will be able to resist committing that sin.

LivingEM: But the desire for that sin will still be there.

LivingEM: We must say no.

LivingEM: Mr. Clinton should have said, no.

LivingEM: If the desire is overwhelming,

LivingEM: we must cry out to the Lord, confessing our inability to resist.

LivingEM: He will forgive us many times if we truly desire to stop.

LivingEM: And eventually we will be strong enough to resist.

LivingEM: But so long as we have a sin nature,

LivingEM: we will always be vulnerable to our weaknesses.

LivingEM: Each man has his own weaknesses,

LivingEM: although we all would fall prey to every sin known to man

LivingEM: if the circumstances were fertile.

LivingEM: This is why we walk as blamelessly as possible,

LivingEM: to minimize the fertile circumstances.

LivingEM: We use wisdom, we stay away from tempting circumstances

LivingEM: and tempting people,

LivingEM: until we become incapable of the sin.

LivingEM: This is the true meaning of the Sabbath day.

LivingEM: The day of rest from the spiritual labor of keeping

LivingEM: our sin nature under Christ.

LivingEM: In the regeneration, there will be no more war.

LivingEM: Anyone else?

LivingEM: You see, if we ask the Lord to forgive us,

LivingEM: and we do not receive His correction when it comes,

LivingEM: the sowing and reaping judgment will be speeded up,

LivingEM: because the Lord is answering our own prayer,

LivingEM: to forgive you.

LivingEM: There is no forgiveness so long as you continue to do the things

mentioned in

LivingEM: this message.

LivingEM: There is only judgment because Jesus is faithful

LivingEM: to answer your own prayers to make you holy.

LivingEM: We can make all of the excuses we want to make,

LivingEM: we can justify our unGodly behavior from sun up to sun down,

LivingEM: but neither the Lord, nor his sons believe you.

LivingEM: And your refusal to take the counsel He sends you,

LivingEM: launches Satan's judgment into your life,

LivingEM: BECAUSE JESUS IS FAITHFULLY ANSWERING YOUR OWN PRAYER.

LivingEM: to forgive your sins.

LivingEM: You will surely do these things no more saith the Lord.

LivingEM: I will see to it.

LivingEM: Does anybody remember sucking their thumb when they were little?

LivingEM: My mother put some foul tasting solution on my thumb.

LivingEM: It tasted so bad I stopped sucking my thumb.

Myprecous1: yes

ToDaNow: i see have seen some people to that now

LivingEM: That's pretty much the size of it.

LivingEM: With children today?

LivingEM: You are forgiven "by faith" until you stop doing the sin, and when

you stop doing it

LivingEM: because you have gotten into so much trouble for doing it,

LivingEM: your sins are forgiven.

LivingEM: So you wonder why the heathen does the same thing and you, and

never gets into trouble, do

LivingEM: you?

LivingEM: The reason is your own prayers.

LivingEM: Let me serve you Lord.

LivingEM: Make me holy, Lord.

LivingEM: Let me ascend, Lord.

LivingEM: Let me be a son, Lord.

LivingEM: The Lord scourgeth every son that He receives.

LivingEM: So that henceforth all things work for the good for those who love

the

LivingEM: Lord and are called according to His purposes.

LivingEM: But be not deceived, He will go to whatever lengths necessary

LivingEM: to purify you, IN ANSWER TO YOUR OWN PRAYERS,

LivingEM: so you would do well to ask the Lord to open your

LivingEM: ears, and help you to understand and obey.

LivingEM: You will never be destroyed, but you can lose your house.

LivingEM: That is the Scripture.

LivingEM: The winds and the rain came,

LivingEM: and the whole house came down, but the man was saved.

LivingEM: Believe, me, it's much easier to cooperate with the Lord.

LivingEM: And remember this,

LivingEM: once He receives your prayers and decides t answer them,

LivingEM: their is no amount of tears or pleading that will stop the

judgment.

LivingEM: But you will come out as pure gold.

LivingEM: There is no turning back.

LivingEM: The Scripture says that anyone who puts his hand to the plow and

turns back, is what?

LivingEM: not fit for the kingdom.

Myprecous1: unworthy

LivingEM: Do you know what "plow" means?

LivingEM: It means to cut into the earth of your personality

LivingEM: and plant the nature of Jesus Christ.

LivingEM: The Scripture likens it to having a baby.

LivingEM: It can be very painful, but joy cometh in the morning

LivingEM: when you see that you have birthed a manchild.

LivingEM: The Scripture says, I am doing a new thing in the earth,

LivingEM: behold, a man experiencing the pains of childbirth.

LivingEM: That is the spiritual man, Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: But we, the personality, feel the birth pangs.

LivingEM: Christ coming forth in you can be likened to human childbirth.

LivingEM: Once the baby starts coming, you can scream all that you want to,

LivingEM: but there's no place to run .

LivingEM: You have to go through.

LivingEM: And there is nothing that can separate us from the love of God,

except our own unconfessed

LivingEM: sin.

LivingEM: I've been telling some ofyou all for years, if you think the Lord

is sofe

LivingEM: soft, you better think again.

LivingEM: I remember the first time he was tought with me.

LivingEM: He told me that if i didn't stand up and fight [spiritual warfare],

He would

LivingEM: leave me for carion on the banks of the Jordan.

LivingEM: carion=dead meat for the vultures to eat.

LivingEM: carion

LivingEM: And if you think that I'm tough, you would never make it through

what i've been through.

LivingEM: I'm verrrrrry nice compared to the ones who broke me.

LivingEM: Any other questions or comments?

LivingEM: God bless you all. Remember the Lord said that

LivingEM: He would be appearing publicly very soon.

LivingEM: That means someone will ascend into the brow

LivingEM: 6th center and become a supernatural man.

LivingEM: who will have the strength to gather those who are

LivingEM: in a Godly submission to him,

LivingEM: up into the 6th center also.

LivingEM: The man in the 6th center will hold the ohters up there

Myprecous1: God was dealing with me the through whole message

LivingEM: until they are strong enough to stay by themsleves.

LivingEM: Praise the Lord that you could hear it.

LivingEM: The more we respond to this kind of Godly warning, the more we ward

off the sowing and

LivingEM: reaping judgment mediated by Satan.

LivingEM: God bless you all. Go in peace. Give every man the

LivingEM: benefit of the doubt.

LivingEM: Esteem everyone better than yourself.

LivingEM: Pride is the root of all destruction.

LivingEM: This does not mean that you let yourself be abused.

LivingEM: It means sit on your pride, and think about the other person.

LivingEM: I feel that you are all spiritually gripping your computers.

LivingEM: WE have had this happen in the NY meetings.

LivingEM: Where the anointing was so profound that everyone just

LivingEM: sits there after I end the meeting.

LivingEM: I still have a bad cold and my hiatal hernia is better,

LivingEM: but still bothering me somewhat. I would appreciate your prayers.

LivingEM: Until next week,