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HOMOSEXUALS / BISEXUALS
I JOHN 2:4: He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. I JOHN 1:6: If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: ROMANS 1:26: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
i cannot tell you how grieved i am with this
generation that is before me. i cannot believe i am in the age where homosexuals
are fighting for rights and i can't believe that they are getting them and
people are accepting them even when God does not. But then again it is written
that Satan is the God of this world, and it is written that most people will
go to Hell and only a few will enter into Heaven,
(*) i guess really it don't surprise
me at all that I have spoke with many Homosexuals over the years and heard their excuses to defend their actions and they are excuses, because there is nothing in the Words of God that acknowledges sexual behavior towards the same sex, nothing in the Words of God that condones homosexuals. And every husband in the Old Testament and the New Testament all had wives. Not one example of a Christian Homosexual couple in the entire Bible, Old nor New Testaments. Not one example. Many claim that David and Jonathon we homosexual, yet there is not one example that suggests they had a sexual relationship, NOT ONE. The love David felt for Jonathon, i have felt towards others of the same sex, this does not mean, i had sex with them because i loved them dearly. There is absolutely no Scriptures whatsoever that promotes same sex relationship involving sexual activities. Could David have loved Jonathon and not have had to have sex with him ?? Yes He most certainly could have done that, and did just that. This wicked generation that is before my eyes can't relate to loving someone without having sex with them. this is not God's fault but those who think you have to have sex with someone in order to love them. A man can love another man, this is no sin. But for a man to have a sexual relationship with another man, this is abomination to God.
So then where do they base their righteousness from ? What
part of the Bible says that it is OK to be Homosexual ? If it is not in the
Bible where did they get the idea that it is OK in the sight of God ? i will
tell you, the Master Deceiver has spread this lie, telling people that it
is not wrong to Love another human and it is not wrong to have a sexual
relationship with the same sex, then i guess it is not wrong to have sexual
relationships
ROMANS 1:26: For this cause God gave them
up unto vile affections (affections, that's
caring for someone, feelings. lets go on ) for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
nature: ( What is the woman's natural use? Well why did God create
woman? He created woman to bear children, to be a help mate to the man. or
do you think there is another reason God created woman? i assure you my Father
i am a Heterosexual, i was born that way, But if i go out and have sexual relationships with the opposite sex, i will go to Hell, it is fornication. Because i was born that way does not give me the right to act on it.
i was born a man in a mans body, does not mean i can go out and
have sex with women. and it's O.K. because i am a man. If you are born a
woman in a woman's body does not mean you can go out and have sex with men.
If you are born a man in a woman's body, does not mean you can go out and
have sex with men and/or women. If you are born a woman in a mans body, does
not mean you can go out and have sex with men and/or The Word of God tells us how we are to be in relationships. And as far as i know, Nowhere in the Words of God does it say how a husband is to treat his husband, or how a wife is to treat her wife. NOWHERE. i would think if it was O.K. to be a homosexual, that God would allow instruction for them as well. But He did not. Because it is not O.K. A person who has sex with animals, would have the same argument as homosexuals. Where in the Word of God does it say that it is wrong. They will excuse or ignore those verses that many people will point out to them, which clearly says it is wrong. A person who has sex with children, has more of a fight than both those who are homosexuals and those who do bestiality, Because where is it written That an adult can't have sex with a child? Does it make it O.K. for adults to have sex with children? i say NO it is not O.K.. But as you would say, prove it's not O.K. The Bible specifically draws a line. But because of man's pleasure they will go over the line. and claim it is O.K. It would not surprise me in the slightest in the future that people will be allowed to marry their pets. And when enough people come out of the closet, they will demand Rights as well, and they will also claim to be Christians, They will claim i was born that way, i have always been attracted to animals. They will have the same fight as Homosexuals fight. To try to convince people that it's O.K and that it is not wrong. and then even the Homosexuals will tell them it is wrong to have sex with animals, and those who have sex with animals will say to them, you say those things because you have a phobia of bestiality and do not understand, just as people who are Homosexuals today say to those who try to tell them it is wrong. I assure you, that God created the anus to rid the body of waste products,This is evident in nature as well, and He created the tongue so that we may be able to taste and speak clearly. But men and women alike have taken these parts and used them so that they might receive pleasure for themselves. Woe unto these people, for they are lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God. (*) Then there are those who try to have their cake and eat it too, by saying I am a Gay Christian and that's alright. ( It doesn't matter what the Bible says, I say its alright because God made me this way ) Of a Truth, If you do not cease from you wicked ways, you will not enter into the Kingdom of God. i have told you the Truth. i did not say this to upset anyone, or to anger anyone, but it's because i love you and want to see you in Heaven that i tell you. If i did not care for you, i would have said nothing. So come Judgment day when you stand in front of Christ saying" I did not know it was wrong, I did not know it was evil" Christ will say to you. " How many people did I send to you, to tell you it was wrong and you would not listen, but instead defended your actions, because you refused to give up that pleasure for My sake" I find it strange, If God did intend for men to be with men sexually, why do the men not self lubricate, as the women do when they are prepared to have intercourse with a man? If everyone in the world were to go to men with men, and women with women, There would be no children created by couple's does this seem righteous. i would think not. Many Homosexuals will say show me in the Word of God where it is wrong. (ignoring the obvious verses of course). However Homosexuals can't find one verse which states it is alright. 1) Nowhere does it state a man being with a man sexually (except the verses which say it is wrong) 2) Nowhere does it state a woman with a woman sexually 3) Every couple, (EVERY) was a man and a woman, whether it was marriage, fornication, or adultery 4) The Bible gives guidelines for how a husband treats his wife 5) The Bible gives guidelines for how a wife treats the husband 6) Nowhere does it give guidelines for how a husband is to treat a husband 7) Nowhere does it give guidelines for how a wife is to treat her wife. 8) The Bible gives guidelines for a divorce between husband and wife. 9) Nowhere does the Bible give guidelines for a divorce between a husband and husband or a wife a wife 10) We know that when a man and a woman are joined they become one, where is it mentioned if a man and a man, or a woman with a woman, are joined they also become one ? The Answer is : NOWHERE in the Bible 11) There are no guidelines for homosexuals to get a divorce. ( Did God forget to write them? ) ( Is God forgetful? ) God is all knowing, He knew what would be happening in today's age with homosexuality. If then God knew there would be an outburst concerning this subject, Why did He not say then it was O.K. to be homosexual, You are saying, Why didn't He say it was Wrong. He did, you just refuse to believe the verses which says so, and that is not His fault, but yours. There is too much evidence in the Word of God which anyone could see, that points to the fact God did not intend for men to be with men, and women to be with women, Now i ask what purpose would God have for a man to be with a man? or a woman to be with a woman? Nothing comes of it, nothing is created, no life can be created. God ONLY gave us guidelines between a man and a woman, and there is a reason for that, because that is the ONLY Righteous way. there is no other way, no matter what you try to say, the Bible is clear. Unless you remain single, this would be righteous also. It all boils down to this, If Homosexuality is O,K. with God, He forgot to put quite a bit of information in His Word covering this subject. And truthfully i don't think God would have made such a huge mistake, He's God, He don't make mistakes, But were human, And we do, like homosexuals saying that it is O.K. to be a gay Christian, Where are they getting their information, because i assure you, they did not get it from the Words of God, if then they did not get it from the Words of God that it was O.k. to practice homosexual acts? Of course none other then men themselves, leave it to the man to follow Satan and his ways and say that it is love and not Satan.
i will tell you the Truth, i believe it is possible for a man to
love a man, and a woman to love a woman, this is not sin, but you do not
need to have sexual intercourse to do so. sexual intercourse between a man
and a man, or a woman and a woman is not a requirement to love that person.
The act of intercourse is not, i repeat is not, required to love someone
whether male or female. i know that most of you say " But I love Him" or
" And i am truly sorry, But i believe in the Words of God. It is written:
I CORINTHIANS 11:9: Neither was the man created
for the woman; but the woman for the man. It
says the woman was created for the man, not " A woman was created for a woman"
nor " A man was created for a man ". It says plainly with no interpretation
needed, The woman was created for the man. And i am sorry to upset the women
who might be reading this but the truth is the truth, The natural use of
a woman is to be a help
Gen:3:16: Unto the woman he said, I will
greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring
forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule
over thee. Why is it there is no comment about
how the husband is to treat the husband, or the wife to the wife, It says
a woman's desires shall be to her husband and he shall rule over her, This
is also in the New Testament. But it does not say a woman's
ROMANS 1:26: For this cause God gave them
up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use
into that which is against nature: 27: And likewise also the men, leaving
the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men
with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that
recompense of their error which was meet.
Because of this verse, many Homosexuals,
i know you try very Hard to defend your homosexual activities so
People will approve, But if the Word of God does not say it is O.k. then
don't do it. i am trying to save your soul, Do you think Satan is sending
so many people to you, telling you it is wrong, or in fact isn't it God sending
you so many people to try to tell you it is wrong. And because you are not
willing to give it up, you are willing to take the chance of not going to
Heaven. Lk:16:15: And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. LEVITICUS 18:22: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. First who is He talking to a male or female? If female, He just told a female thou shalt not lie with mankind. well that cannot be right, it is not Biblical at all. So this verse was directed to a man, He told the man thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind, This is plain out saying man shall not have sex with men as he does with women, Where is the confusion here, how in the world did Satan get people to claim it is O.K. There is no need to interpret what that verse says, of course if you disagree with it, then you and everyone else who disagree with it will try to come up with a different meaning for that verse in order to make it alright to be homosexual.
I CORINTHIANS 7:1: Now concerning the things
whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2:
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and
let every woman have her own husband. With all
truthfulness there are a lot of foolish people in this world. The above verse
says to avoid fornication ( sex before being married) to avoid it, what are
we to do? let every (all, not some, but all)every man have his own wife (
not husband, but wife, female ) and let every (all, not some, but all)every
woman have her own husband ( not wife, but husband, male) The whole chapter
of I Corinthians talks of the man and the woman being,.......... I'm not
even going to go on with this, i can't believe that most of the whole world
was struck stupid when it comes to Homosexual practices. We might as well
throw the Bible in the trash, for what it says doesn't mean squat to this
wicked and perverse generation. It is only common sense that a man and a
woman are to be together, and now people, not God are saying oh, men can
be with men, women can be with women, Yes lets have sex with everything and
everybody, because i just want to love you, and love is of God, and How can
it be wrong to Love another human being ? Woe to this wicked and perverse
generation, for you have made the Word of God out to be full of lie's with
your righteousness and not God's, How will you escape the Tribulations, the
wrath of God? Letter One: Question: Can a person be a homosexual and be Saved
Anyone can be saved, if they Truly have a repentant heart and follow
Christ. Can a person be a homosexual and be Saved, most certainly. Scriptures
does not condemn homosexuals nor does it condemn heterosexuals, Scriptures
condemn having sexual relationships of any kind outside of marriage. It is
not a sin for a man to be attracted to a man, nor a woman attracted to a
woman, just as it is not a sin for man to be attracted to a
Letter Two: someone writes: >>> but my question is why are you so concerned about homosexuals.. i see alot of straight "people" talking about homosexuals and how they are going to die and go to hell. but just as much as the homosexuals will go to hell the straight people will to. they do as much evil, abominating things as gays. <<<
DiscipleDave replied >>> According to the title of the
email that you sent me, you title it " YOUR page about homosexuality " if
then it is a page about Homosexuality then that would be the main topic of
that page. There are many chapters that discuss other things as well, the
page on homosexuality discusses just that. i teach against all sins that
are knowingly and willingly committed regardless of sexuality or race, or
anything else for someone writes: >>> and i know your not on my side but what if you were born and as you grew older you only thought about males as you do of females and even thought that's not how you want it to be but there is not kind of attraction towards females... its jus thesame..for example JUST TO SAY being STRAIGHT WAS THE WRONG TO DO but SO YOU KEPT IT TO YOURSELF AND no matter how hard you try YOU COULDNT be atracted to a MALE? EVEN THOUGH IT WUS THE RIGHT THING TO DO... CORRECT.. this is true for you now hopefully. ..and for myself its not about doing the wrong thing... sometimes i think GOD gave me the gift of understanding both sides of females and males of this SO I COULD WORK MYSELF OUT. maybe as a blessing.. <<<
DiscipleDave replies >>> OK let us understand one thing
first. that attraction of any kind is Carnal, worldly. What my eyes can
physically see is carnal and earthly. Love one feels for another is not based
on attraction. In the days of Christ and many years before that, attraction
to the spouse was irrelevant. Parents decided who their sons and daughters
would marry. Only much later in time has satan used attraction as a tool
to misguide someone writes: >>> i still like females very much, they are very beautiful and i think they are a gift from god to man <<< Is that why you like females because they are very beautiful to the eyes ? :(
Letter Three Jzbl says >>> dear Disciple Dave. Thank-you for replying to my rather nasty e-mail. I am very sorry if I offended you or your beliefs.<<< DiscipleDave replied >>> Forgiven, and i ask you to forgive me, if at any time you thought i was talking about you personally and not the act of homosexual practices. <<<
Jzbl says >>> It is just that as you have your strong beliefs I too have my own convictions. Everyone must have their beliefs respected and that includes "queers" and the "God Squad" alike. So the devil may be pleased with my liberal views on homosexuality. But if there is a God, and I do think that somewhere there must be someone who created us all, I am sure he would not be pleased by your policy of hate. "Love thy neighbour" and "he without sin cast the first stone" are these not popular phrases from the Bible? <<<<
DiscipleDave replied >>> First off i would like to point
out that you once said you do not believe there is a God, yet in the above
statement you say you do, If then you do believe there is a God then there
is yet hope for you. You say that i have a policy of hate, Could you please
tell me why you believe this to be True. For you see i get much hate mail
from homosexuals saying nasty, mean things to me, and attacking me personally,
even Jzbl says >>>I am a nice, good person, I would never do harm to another person- so I don't spend all day praying, but I'm sure the good in me outweighs the evil and I won't burn in hell. <<<
DiscipleDave replied >>> There is this person who gives
every week to charity, this person goes to the hospitals and visits people
she does not even know, this person started a homeless shelter right in their
home, This person sends food and clothing to foreign countries, this person
sings in a choir at the local church, this person is loved by all. This person
killed a person in cold blood. and is sentenced to life in prison. So then
in some cases no matter how much good you do, it is because of the evil that
you have done that you will have to pay for. This person did everything good
except one bad thing, and now this person is doing life in prison. Adam and
Eve commit one sin and they are cast out of the Garden of Eden, i guess the
good they did didn't matter at all. Moses because of one sin, did not get
to enter into the promise land at all. David because of his one sin, lost
a child, and was told all his kids would pay for his sin. Clearly, { the
good out weighing the bad is not a biblical teaching }A person who rapes
children could have the same argument, as long as they do more good then
how many times they rape a child, they will also get to go to Heaven because
their good out weighs their bad, and they also will not go to Hell. Matters
of fact what person on this planet would not say and think that they do more
good then bad ? It all comes down to this, those who Truly want to go to
Heaven, will seek out how they can go there. Those who really do not care
are
This belief is so flawed in so many ways it is unreal. Who determines
what is good or what is bad. can one bad thing be equal to many good things.
does one good thing out weigh 5 bad things ? Where is the guidelines that
one may live by to determine good things verses bad things. For example there
are those who do not feel it is a bad thing to steal because they live in
the ghetto and that is common practice. Where then is the line drawn, where
is the instructions what out weighs what, how many good things equal bad
things, how many good things must a person do in order to out weigh one bad
thing. As you can see this thinking is flawed in so many countless ways it
is unreal. The Words of God tells us what is good and what is bad, it is
instructions on how a person can get to Heaven. It is my love for lost souls,
that i try with all my heart to get people to live by what
Tell me something if you will. Hypothetically speaking: if you
knew for a fact that eating hot dogs will cause you not to go to Heaven.
Lets just say for a moment, that you knew full well if you eat hot dogs you
will not go to Heaven. And you saw your sister or brother eating a hot dog,
Would you say something to them or not ????? i would think you would say
something to them if you loved them and desired them to go to Heaven, would
you
Again, i know without any doubts whatsoever, that a man having
intercourse with a man is an abomination to God which made man and woman,
male and female, husband and wife. Therefore when i, through love try to
warn those who do such things, they say all manner of evil against me, and
say that i have a doctrine of hate" Here is the Truth. those who practice
homosexual activities ( remember this is nothing about you, nor about your
Well i can write much more in an attempt to try to tell you that it is not hate, But God knows that what i teach is not of hate, but an attempt to get people to cease from wickedness, no matter what that wickedness may be. God knows that i do it because i love them, and this is all that matters to me, that God knows. <<<
In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ AMEN
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. . . . . . . . . . . .Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it Back . . . . . . . . . . .
.II Timothy 3:1
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2: For men
shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers,
disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3: Without natural affection,
trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that
are good, 4: Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers
of God; 5: Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from
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