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11/18/98 - Prayer - Part 1

LivingEM: Praise the Lord everybody!

LivingEM: does anyone have any questions or comments today?

LivingEM: we will wait on the Lord for a spiritual lead

LivingEM: let's talk about what prayer is supposed to be.

LivingEM: is prayer just in the expression of good thoughts towards another

person?

LivingEM: or is prayer a creative spiritual power?

LivingEM: how does prayer work?

JSNGSNG: by faith

LivingEM: is the necessary to pray out loud?

LivingEM: if it true that if you pray at loud Satan will hear you,

LivingEM: but if you pray silently, she will not.

LivingEM: I see we have an answer, that prayer works by faith.

LivingEM: this is what the church world teaches, but what does it mean?

LivingEM: what is faith?

LivingEM: can anyone tell us what faith is?

JSNGSNG: Believing that God will respond according to His Will

LAMB4114: expecting what we don't see now

LivingEM: this is hope, not faith.

LAMB4114: believing Christ will do as He has promised

DANIEL42: we must have the faith of the son of God which is Christ jesus

agreeing with Jesus above?

LivingEM: this is true, the only true faith is the faith of Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: it is not possible to have faith apart from Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: Christ Jesus within the individual, agreeing with the glorified

Jesus Christ who is above,

LivingEM: is known as the double portion [of faith].

LivingEM: hope is the faith of the carnal man, which is not face at all, but

hold that faith will

LivingEM: hope is that faith of the carnal man, which is not faith at all,

LivingEM: by hope that faith will appear.

LivingEM: but hope that faith will appear.

LivingEM: so, we have established so far in our discussion, that prayer

works by faith.

LivingEM: that is, the faith of the son of God.

LivingEM: so that if we are lacking the faith of the son of God,

LivingEM: our prayer life is crippled.

LivingEM: we can say, then, that there are two basic categories of prayer.

LivingEM: one category being true prayer, and the other category being

pseudo- prayer,

LivingEM: and that the category of true prayer is subdivided into two

aspects.

LivingEM: prayer, brethren, is focused spiritual energy.

LivingEM: I should tell you that there is a prayer outside of Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: there is a focused spiritual energy in this world which is not

Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: her name is Satan.

LivingEM: so we that true prayer can come from Christ Jesus, or from Satan,

LivingEM: the ascended spiritual authority which is generated by the fiery

serpent.

LivingEM: people who do not know how to focus the energy of either Christ

Jesus or stated

LivingEM: Satan,

LivingEM: many have the hope that 1 of theses will respond to their

petition.

LivingEM: the people who cannot focus the spiritual energy of Christ Jesus

your Satan,

LivingEM: but petition one of them for help, are engaging in pseudo- prayer.

LivingEM: this is not a negative term, nor do I use it to insult anyone.

LivingEM: we cannot grow if we believe that we have already attained the

desired object,

LivingEM: when this is not true.

LivingEM: there are two levels of prayer within the household of God.

LivingEM: the first level or rise is out of the holy spirit, which is the

seed

LivingEM: that can generate Christ.

LivingEM: the second level, a rise is out of Christ, Himself.

LivingEM: Christ grows in wisdom and grace and, therefore, the ability to

focus His energy

LivingEM: increases as He matures.

LivingEM: the ultimate expression of focused spiritual energy

LivingEM: is reached when it is combined with and understanding

LivingEM: of the spiritual nature of the problem, AND the Scriptural

solution to the problem.

LivingEM: there is power to focus the energy which is in Christ in the holy

spirit,

LivingEM: but an understanding of the spiritual nature of the problem and

the Scriptural solution

LivingEM: is rarely present in the mind of the one who is manifesting the

holy spirit.

LivingEM: I should say, rarely, if ever, found in the mind of the one

manifesting the holy spirit.

LivingEM: this is true because wisdom as understanding are in the mature

Christ,

LivingEM: as the more mature the Christ is, the more he has separated

himself from Satan's influence.

LivingEM: the gift of tongues in given to deal with our lack of wisdom,

understanding and knowledge,

LivingEM: until the time that we are able to understand the nature of the

spiritual problem that we

LivingEM: are dealing with, understand the Scriptural solution to that

problem,

LivingEM: and pronounce the Scriptural solution upon the spiritual problem,

LivingEM: which will then manifest as an answer to prayer.

LivingEM: am I saying that praying in the holy ghost is bad, or in adequate?

LivingEM: most certainly not!

LivingEM: I am saying, however, that praying in the holy ghost is one stage

of development

LivingEM: in the overall manifestation of a rising son.

LivingEM: I am saying, that if we think we have attained to the highest form

of prayer, when we pray

LivingEM: in the holy ghost, we will not the open to spiritual growth in

this area.

LivingEM: should we stop praying in tongues?

LivingEM: most certainly not!

LivingEM: we cannot force spiritual growth by using our will power to change

our behavior.

LivingEM: eight days a good thing to change behavior which has been revealed

to be ungodly,

LivingEM: It is a good thing to change behavior which has been revealed as

ungodly.

LivingEM: but we must keep in mind that changed behavior alone is no sign of

spiritual growth.

LivingEM: it is very possible to change our behavior, without changing our

heart.

LivingEM: I have seen people speak in tongues which they themselves have

contrived,

LivingEM: because they were not willing to wait to receive the true gift.

LivingEM: obviously, this is an error, because there can be no power in self

contrived tongues.

LivingEM: likewise, there is no power in denying the true gift of tonues,

LivingEM: in an attempt to deceive ourselves as to our spiritual growth.

LivingEM: the sign that our tongues our dissipating because the seed of the

holy spirit is maturing

LivingEM: into Christ, is the simultaneous increase in wisdom, understanding

and knowledge.

LivingEM: wisdom is the supernatural knowledge that Christ imparts to us.

LivingEM: it is a "knowing," if you can understand and the intent of that

word.

LivingEM: wisdom is a sense within us that knows what to do.

LivingEM: he is security.

LivingEM: he is power.

LivingEM: he is help in our time of need.

LivingEM: the problem that many of us have it is that we do not understand

or have a knowledge of his

LivingEM: language.

LivingEM: we expect Christ to communicate with us like men communicate.

LivingEM: until we know better, most of us are listening for an audible

voice.

LivingEM: Christ rarely speaks from the spirit in an audible voice.

LivingEM: but there is one who speaks in and audible voice frequently.

LivingEM: her name is Satan.

LivingEM: she is the great deceiver.

LivingEM: one does not need much skill to understand her.

LivingEM: everything that we might attempt to accomplish, spiritually

speaking,

LivingEM: is easier to do through Satan, than it is to do through Christ.

LivingEM: does anyone know why?

DANIEL42: because our fallen nature is stronger in us than Christ?

JSNGSNG: Because the fiery serpent is in us

LivingEM: this is true.

LivingEM: more specifically, Satan uses witchcraft to seduce us.

LivingEM: the reason our fallen nature is stronger, than Christ, is

witchcraft.

LivingEM: Christ speaks to us through his word.

LivingEM: he may speak to us through the written word, attrracting us

LivingEM: to specific Scriptures or words,

LivingEM: but in his maturity, he speaks to us through our own knowledge of

his word,

LivingEM: and this knowledge of his word is a living thing inside of us.

LivingEM: he prompts us through our mind and through our higher of emotions,

LivingEM: t think and do the thoughts and things that he would do.

LivingEM: Christ is a very soft voice, which frequently is not a voice at

all.

LivingEM: when I say "voice," I am talking about a perception which appears

to be apart from myself.

LivingEM: Christ sometimes communicates with us as a voice apart from

ourselves, and what he does,

LivingEM: he speaks in a very, very soft voice.

LivingEM: if you have not been trained to recognize that voice, or if there

is a lot of distraction in

LivingEM: your physical surroundings, you are likely to miss it.

LivingEM: but more often than not, Christ manifests as your own thoughts and

ideas.

LivingEM: It is the sin of pride to believe that many, if not all, of our

good ideas arose out of our

LivingEM: carnal mind.

LivingEM: after all, we have only two minds.

LivingEM: if Christ did not think the thought through us, then our carnal

mind must have.

LivingEM: so we see, that to think that we do not hear from Christ, is and

open door

LivingEM: for the carnal mind to say that she is Christ.

LivingEM: it is true that there is good and evil in the carnal my,

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LivingEM: mind,

LivingEM: but we must ask ourselves why, once the Lord begins to influence

our life,

LivingEM: we would choose to think that the good thoughts are more likely to

arise out of our carnal

LivingEM: mind, than out of Christ.

LivingEM: the reason that it is so hard to distinguish Christ within

ourselves,

LivingEM: is that Christ is our new man.

LivingEM: he is us.

LivingEM: we are him.

LivingEM: he IS our mind, and the generator of our thoughts.

LivingEM: we should default to him, acknowledging him, and asking him

LivingEM: to reveal our carnal mind to us, whenever she manifests.

LivingEM: our carnal mind is the squatter.

LivingEM: she is the one who is present illegally.

LivingEM: this is what Paul was speaking about when he said:

LivingEM: wherefore my brethren,

LivingEM: ye also have become dead to the law by the body of Chirst,

LivingEM: that ye should be married to another,

LivingEM: even to him that is raised from the dead [Christ]

LivingEM: that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

LivingEM: Romans 7:3.

LivingEM: Christ Jesus, the glorify Jesus Christ speaks to us in a loud

voice,

LivingEM: because he shouting to us from the other side of the wall that the

serpent has built around

LivingEM: us.

LivingEM: the glorified Jesus Christ, although when the midst of us,

LivingEM: is still separate from us, until he marries Christ Jesus growing

within us,

LivingEM: who is his offspring.

LivingEM: this is the promised wedding:

LivingEM: between the glorifiedJesus Christ, and Christ Jesus who is growing

within us.

LivingEM: this is the wedding that took place at Cana.

LivingEM: Jesus' marriage to the glorified spirit of Elijah was, indeed,

LivingEM: the beginning of Jesus' miracle-working ministry.

LivingEM: I say Jesus' marriage, because Christ was so possessing the man

Jesus at this point,

LivingEM: that Jesus was Christ.

LivingEM: well, this started out to be a message on prayer. Are there any

questions are comments,

LivingEM: before we return to our main subject.

LivingEM: we'll take a 5 minute break. i will answer any questions on the

LivingEM: monitor when i return.

LivingEM: is prayer just an expression of good thoughts towards another

person?

LivingEM: [that was my first question].

LivingEM: would anyone like to answer it?

DANIEL42: prayer is focused spiritual energy?

LivingEM: this is true, but the question asked requires a yes or no answer.

DANIEL42: the answer would be no?

LivingEM: yes, the answer is no.

LivingEM: I didn't see where you will coming from its first.

LivingEM: prayer is not just an expression of good thoughts towards another

person,

LivingEM: prayer is focused spiritual energy.

LivingEM: prayer is concentrated, directed, verbalized thought.

LivingEM: you may remember the teaching on speech and language.

LivingEM: "language" is speaking about a system of verbalized sounds which

LivingEM: communicates ideas to those who are privy to the "code."

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LivingEM: "speech" is talking about ideas, which may or may not be

verbalized.

LivingEM: speech is thought.

LivingEM: I don't know about you, but it took me a long time to comprehend

this concept.

LivingEM: when James speaks about the tongue being untamable member,

LivingEM: he is not talking about the tongue of our physical body.

LivingEM: does anyone think that the dumb mute is a perfect man?

LivingEM: of course not.

LivingEM: this is no more true than the misbelief that a physical woman will

be saved by bearing a

LivingEM: physical child.

LivingEM: the man who tames his spiritual tongue, is a perfect man.

LivingEM: our spiritual tongue is that part of ourselves which generates

ideas.

LivingEM: the generation of ideas is the fruit of spiritual "movement."

LivingEM: the spirit moves, or vibrates, through the earth of our mind,

LivingEM: and the earth is "engraved"

LivingEM: with a permanent record of the thought.

LivingEM: therefore, it is written, every sin will have its just recompense,

LivingEM: and

LivingEM: and i saw the dead, small and great stand before God,

LivingEM: and the books were opened.....

LivingEM: and the dead were judged out of those things that were written in

the books

LivingEM: according to their works.

LivingEM: the opening of the books, is the exposure of our carnal mind.

LivingEM: the sons of God can read and understand the engravings in the

minds of men.

LivingEM: everyone in this world is spiritually dead.

LivingEM: everyone in this world has mind,

LivingEM: and everyone of those minds has a record of every sin ever thought

by that man,

LivingEM: and all of his ancestors before him.

LivingEM: do you know that Scientology claims to deal with "engrams"

LivingEM: in a man's mind?

LivingEM: I don't know whether or not they actually deal with the engravings

that we are speaking

LivingEM: about here, but I think that it is very interesting

LivingEM: that they claim to deal with "markings" on the mind.

LivingEM: some occult sources call this the "akashic record."

LivingEM: the Scripture talks about engraving us with a new nature.

LivingEM: this means that when the mind of Christ thins in us and through

our mind,

LivingEM: we will receive engravings of a different nature.

LivingEM: this is a very interesting thought.

LivingEM: I wonder, if we could see these spiritual engravings,

LivingEM: how would be engravings of the serpent differ from the engravings

of Christ Jesus?

LivingEM: my guess, based upon the knowledge that we have so far,

LivingEM: is that the serpent's engravings would be rounded, curved,

circular, and triangular.

LivingEM: and that the engravings of Christ Jesus would be straight lines

LivingEM: and four-sided geometric figures.

LivingEM: I don't know all that much about math,

LivingEM: but it is my understanding that just about anything can be

expressed mathematically.

LivingEM: I know that music can be expressed mathematically.

LivingEM: I was surprised to find out that my voice-activated software

LivingEM: employs mathematics.

LivingEM: my understanding is that each tone is assigned a mathematical

equivalent,

LivingEM: which the program recognizes.

LivingEM: this is quite amazing to me, but it helps me to understand

LivingEM: that the creation can be expressed mathematically and through

geometric figures.

LivingEM: I'm still trying to understand what really happened to Adsm.

LivingEM: I think the truth is so spiritually high that no mortal man might

ever understand it.

LivingEM: but all knowledge is in Christ Jesus. Glory to God!

LivingEM: I know this has nothing to do with prayer, but I will share with

you my most recent under-

LivingEM: standing of what happened to Adam.

LivingEM: the whole creation is formed from Elohim's energy.

LivingEM: a portion of that energy was mixed with the surface of the earth,

which is called dust.

LivingEM: another portion of Elohim's energy was mixed with the remaining

earth.

LivingEM: to be more specific, Elohim's energy is Jehovah's spiritual

seminal fluid.

LivingEM: the sperm of the seminal fluid was mixed with the dust, and formed

Adam.

LivingEM: the water of the seminal fluid was mixed with the deep earth and

became ground.

LivingEM: the man, adam, was formed from the sperm and the dust.

LivingEM: the woman was formed from adam's other side, the ground.

LivingEM: the ground itself, was pseudo-male and female.

LivingEM: the female part of the ground is called the woman.

LivingEM: the pseudo- male part of the ground," the serpent.

LivingEM: the ground is good and evil.

LivingEM: when the woman, the good part of the ground, is in agreement with

Adam,

LivingEM: the serpent is subdued.

LivingEM: but when the woman is in agreement with the serpent, Adam dies.

LivingEM: what we are talking about here is a balance of energy.

LivingEM: Elohim's seminal fluid was mixed with the earth.

LivingEM: a creature was formed from that mixture, which had positive and

negative flows of energy.

LivingEM: ffor the creature to be a civilized man in Jehovah's image,

LivingEM: the sperm of the seminal fluid would have to control at least half

of the waters.

LivingEM: whoever controls more than half of the waters, controls the whole

creature.

LivingEM: when Adam controls at least half of the waters, he, being the

sperm in the seminal fluid,

LivingEM: imparts the nature of Jehovah, and therefore life to the creature.

LivingEM: when the serpent controls the waters of the seminal fluid she

deliberately kills

LivingEM: the righteous sperm so that she can rule out of her evil pseudo-

manhood.

LivingEM: Adam was tricked into releasing enough of the needed energy

LivingEM: to sustain the civilized man.

LivingEM: he listened to the woman because he believed that she was aligned

with him.

LivingEM: and the woman was aligned with him UNTIL she was seduced

LivingEM: by her own evil potential.

LivingEM: Adam did not discern that the what he trusted had changed

alliances,

LivingEM: and he agreed to utilize more of their energy than he should have.

LivingEM: I do not fully understand this.

LivingEM: this recent information has come out of a deep study

LivingEM: which uses the word "to feed."

LivingEM: apparently, it is this idea that was transmutted into eve eating

the apple.

LivingEM: there was no apple. there was raw, powerful, pulsating, energy.

LivingEM: I do not understand the concept of Adam "feeding" at this time.

LivingEM: I do understand [at least I think I do] the concept of the fiery

serpent

LivingEM: feeding off of mortal man,

LivingEM: and Leviathan, her source of cosmic energy,

LivingEM: but I cannot comprehend at this time a creation that would "feed."

LivingEM: but this is very exciting, because questions like this, always

bring answers.

LivingEM: if you are wondering what this kind of revelation has to do with

us,

LivingEM: the answer is that there is nothing new under the sun.

LivingEM: everything that happened to Adam, is still happening to us,

LivingEM: although in a variation of the original form.

LivingEM: you may remember that in our study of Jonah,

LivingEM: be found Scriptures which revealed that Adam's confession

LivingEM: that he was responsible for the condition of mortal man,

LivingEM: stirs up the delivering power of Jehovah.

LivingEM: but before adam confesses his part, we must confess our part.

LivingEM: does this sound strange to you?

LivingEM: it is the principal behind the mediation of the man, Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: several years ago I heard a doctrine circulating in the church,

LivingEM: that Jesus owes us an apology.

LivingEM: this is a perversion of the truth that I have just told you.

LivingEM: such a statement reeks of pride and proclaims mortal man's

innocence.

LivingEM: the truth is that Adam disobeyed Jehovah and Elohim.

LivingEM: I do not excuse his sin, but motive is very important.

LivingEM: Adam did not willfully disobey.

LivingEM: he was deceived and victimized by witchcraft.

LivingEM: and the worker of the witchcraft is today in the form of mortal

man.

LivingEM: the two parts of the ground, the woman, and the pseudo- male

serpent,

LivingEM: are married to each other and living in physical bodies, which are

an expression of themself

LivingEM: mortal man is not innocent.

LivingEM: true repentance is change.

LivingEM: Adam has already taken great steps through the Lord Jesus Christ,

LivingEM: to correct his error.

LivingEM: we must do the same.

LivingEM: the must confess who we are: the ground.

LivingEM: and that our spiritual ancestors murdered Adam, the son of God.

LivingEM: the Lord has shown me another scripture where Adam confesses that

he was tricked,

LivingEM: and both Adam and the personality that he is resurrected in,

LivingEM: confess their weaknesses, and submit themselves to the glorified

son of God

LivingEM: for correction.

LivingEM: this Scripture is in the old Testament, so the glorified son of

God is Elijah.

LivingEM: it is a very difficult translation, which I will preach if the

Lord lets me.

LivingEM: well, I could say to you that I don't know where that came from,

but I do.

LivingEM: Christ Jesus broke forth in me in the midst of my teaching on a

lower plane.

LivingEM: I pray that he break forth in me with physical, emotional and

spiritual healing, for all who

LivingEM: ask of him, very soon.

LivingEM: we will continue our study on prayer next week, Lord willing.

LivingEM: God bless you all. have a good evening.