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MESSAGE # 397

END TIME MIND CONTROL

(How It Affects You!!!)

Well, I saw this cartoon program, this animated program. It's called Gargoyles. It caught my eye almost immediately because of the spiritual implications in it. Gargoyles, I don't know, I know that there is such a word, but I don't know what I find if I looked it up in the dictionary, but according to this t.v. animated film, a gargoyle is a being who is stone during the day and they come to life during the night. They are humanoid with large wings and tails, and they fly, well according to this animated film. I don't know what mythology says about gargoyles. There are good gargoyles and there are bad gargoyles, and they're evil. There are evil gargoyles and there are good gargoyles and they are at war with one another. I have no problem believing that there are good and evil um, people that are very high spiritually in this world that are warring against one another. And then also there was one character that I can't not recall what they called him, but, now I only watched this once, so a lot of it went over my head, you know, there was a lot that I didn't understand, but there was this one being who had multiple personalities. He was a gargoyle with multiple personalities. His loyalties were divided. One personality was loyal to the evil gargoyles and another personality was loyal to the good gargoyles. I think he had more than two. I don't know what the others did. He was a very powerful being, so the one he lined up with, it was very important who he lined up with, you know, which side he lined up with. And he said at one point that there was a war going on inside of him and that it was not yet determined who he would be permanently aligned with. I found that very interesting because that is the condition that mortal man is in today. Whether we know it or not, it is not, it's not yet determined who we're aligned with, and if we are not in the war, we are probably aligned with the serpent's family. So I found that very interesting, and then there was a policewoman who had a secret relationship with the good gargoyles. Now nobody knew about it because the people would be frightened, but she trusted them and they trusted her, a human spiritual liaison, which I find very interesting, because I see that a lot in the media, and going back a long time ago, do you remember that program Beauty and The Beast? It was a human and she was in love with this bestial man. I don't remember the details because I didn't watch the program. Going back several years, whoever these forces are that have a great deal of power in the media, they have been putting forth these programs that are preparing people's minds to accept the day when human beings will be having open relationships with nonhuman's. These beings are not human. They were humanoid, they had two legs and two arms and eyes and a nose and a mouth, but they were not human. So the woman was the policewoman, she was a hero, who knew karate and had a gun, and she was friends with the good gargoyles. One of the evil gargoyles was a female. She was very strong and she had the power by witchcraft power to convert into a human form. The gargoyles are humanoid, you could see very much that she was female, but she had these big wings and her hands were clawed. But she had the power when the daylight came, you see the gargoyles when the daylight comes they turn to stone. They only come alive at night, but this female gargoyle had a witchcraft potion that enabled her to become human during the day so she did not have to become stone. She was not put out of commission during the day. She turned into a human woman. And what also is interesting, and I don't know whether this is true, I believe there are people that are human, that appear to be very human during the day and are creatures of the night at night. I have no problem believing that, I think everything is out there, everything. What surprised me though was that it was painful for her. It was a painful experience going back and forth between being a human and a gargoyle. I heard years ago about witches in Trinidad and other parts of the world that have the ability to turn into animals and trees, but I have never heard of it being painful before, so I don't know whether it's true or not. I don't know whether it's Hollywood or there is some truth in it, but I just stored it up here, I found it very interesting. And also, it was, do you realize that our kids are watching this? Do you realize what's happening to the mind? The whole program was witchcraft, intense witchcraft to the point where they actually speak the words that they're casting spells, well I cast a spell on this one and I cast a spell on that one. This is what is being fed into our kids. Then when the female gargoyle became a human, she now challenged our female police officer who stated in her role, in her lines, "Well you're human now so you're subject to human laws." And she pulled out a gun. In other words a gun wouldn't work on a gargoyle, but now that you're human this gun will work on you. So there's all kinds of information coming forth in this program. How accurate it is, I don't know. I don't know whether it's accurate or whether it's a lie, that's seeding these people's minds for the day when these beings appear on the earth, that they might think if they're in human form, they're subject to human laws. That's what she said, "Now that you're human you're subject to human laws." That was a line of a kids program at 3:30 in the afternoon. What was also was very interesting, okay there were two more very interesting points. Now remember I've never seen this program before so I don't really know what's going on, I just know what quickly caught my eye. There were two beings, one male and one female, they had been separated for a long time and now they were together, and they were embracing one another and they were determined to not be separated again. I don't know what they're role was in this program, but all I could think about was Satan and Leviathan, that had been separated for so long. Jehovah separated Satan and Leviathan, why? Because when they are together they are very powerful, and when they're together, when Satan and Leviathan are together, when they are connected in an individual mortal man, that mortal man is in full stature. They are in a full stature of evil. They are very spiritually powerful. So Jehovah separated them back in Gen.11. So I thought that was very interesting, they were determined not to be separated again. And then there was vortex in this film. Now we just found out a couple of weeks ago, and I could see by your face that you don't even remember it, (chuckle) when we did Elisha. We found out that a vortex, that the abyss above the firmament is a vortex. It is a mass of swirling whirling waters, that when you come into it's gravitational pull, draws you down to it's center. And there I'm watching this animated program and there's Satan and Leviathan clinging to each other and they look out over there balcony and there's this mass of swirling gases. And they're looking at it. Now I don't know what they thought it was. No, they said, what is it? They didn't know what it was and all I could think about is the vortex from above the heavens, it's descending upon the earth you see. It's coming down. How is it coming down? Michael, who is the last Adam is descended into the earth and he's raising Adam the living soul, his counterpart, the first Adam from the dead, and there's going to be a marriage between the resurrected Adam and the people that he's resurrected in, and Michael, the last Adam, who's above the firmament and connected to Jehovah, so in that way the vortex is coming to the earth. The vortex, which is the mass of whirling waters above the firmament, which draws everything which comes within it's gravitational field into it's center is descending upon the earth in that Adam, the living soul, is rising from the dead in a company of men, when he dominates the sin nature, those men will be in full stature, the first stage of resurrection, and then the second stage of the resurrection is the marriage of the first and the last Adam, connecting the worlds above the firmament to the world beneath the firmament. Are you following me? So the vortex is coming down to the earth, but in this cartoon they just saw it out there over their balcony, and it was just this mass of swirling energy, and they were looking out there, what's it doing out there? It just excited me, it really excited me. It got me very excited, and I had a dream, I think it was over a year ago, I shared it with you, you probably don't remember it, but I shared it with you. I forget a lot of my dreams, but this one I didn't forget, but I looked out the window and there was a reservoir, and the water in the reservoir was whirling with such a force that there were peaks, there were waves coming up on the top, on the surface of the waters. And I was in a high rise apartment building looking out of the window, looking at it saying, "I wonder what it is? I wonder what it is? We're are all so ignorant, including me, we are all so ignorant. It is a fact, we are all so ignorant. The Scripture clearly says that the children of darkness are much wiser than we are. All this knowledge has to be in the world. How could it be in a children's cartoon if somebody out there doesn't have this knowledge? I do not believe that this is coming up as somebody's imagine. The people writing these scripts are people who have some knowledge of spiritual things, maybe a lot of knowledge of spiritual things. And then in another incident of this same film, the female, and like I'm telling you, I'm sorry I'm not giving you a complete story, but I didn't watch long enough to know, you have to watch every day to know what's going on. The man and the woman, Satan and Leviathan, who were reconciled and determined to never part, the man's brother was supposedly lost in the vortex, and the man did not want to go after him, he did not want to go into the vortex looking for him. He said, "I found you my love, I don't want this war anymore, I don't any part of it. Now there are three characters that appear to be positive, and I'd have to watch it everyday to find out for sure, but they appear to be positive, and they were going around and manipulating and controlling everything by witchcraft. As I said I didn't watch long enough to understand their ultimate purpose, but as this reconciled man and woman were standing there talking to one another, the three witches appeared upon the female, and the female started to say to her lover, "Well we really should help your brother." What I'm trying to say is that the three witches, the way it showed in the film, they were influencing her mind and she spoke what they wanted her to speak, and apparently what they wanted her to speak were words that would influence her lover to go after this man who was caught in the vortex, I don't know why. They should it right on the film. These three women surrounded the female gargoyle, she spoke their words, and they actually the three female spirits, or whatever they were, they weren't spirits, they were real people, but they were there in the spirit, actually entered into her, you could see there were three, and then one at a time they entered into her, she spoke the words, she convinced her lover, and they made a vow, whatever the vow was and they jumped into the vortex to save the man's brother. Then we see these three women, again they appeared positive, in another scene amongst the evil gargoyles, there was a liaison, there was a liaison between the vicious female that I told you about who became human during the day, she was evil, she had no morals or scruples at all. She had a liaison with an evil immortal that was moral, if they makes any sense at all. Why do I say he was moral? Because now they had a liaison, this woman who had no morals, not a woman, she was a female gargoyle, who had no morals whatsoever, and a male gargoyle, if he was a gargoyle, I may have some of these facts wrong, but he was male, and they were in some evil liaison, but he would not let the female kill the policewoman because she was out cold. Now the female gargoyle wanted to murder the policewoman, and the male that she was in a liaison with said, "No, it's not moral to kill someone that can't fight back. So he was evil, but he had morals. All of sudden, these three witches, I'll call them witches, because I don't know what else they are, they appeared humanoid, they didn't appear to be gargoyles, appeared silently, you know, the two weren't aware of them, and the three witches were talking amongst themselves with the female gargoyle present who became a human during the day, and the male who was moral, and the three witches were saying, "Well we cast a spell on these two so that they would form this liaison, you see. But it's amazing that they're together at all, because if it wasn't for this witchcraft spell, they would never be together, these two are so at odds with one another. Then one of the witches speaks out and says, "Well the spell is wearing off, because you can not force people to do what they really would not choose to do for an indefinite period of time. There's outright instruction if this program, outright instruction as to the operation of spirit. It's coming across as lines in the film, but it's outright instruction, see. So I don't believe that this is true. I used to believe it's true that if someone is under that they would not compromise their own morality, okay, and that's what they were saying in this film that these two were in a liaison, but you can't keep the spell on them forever if it's against their will. Well maybe it's true and maybe it's not true. When I was in Africa I heard a story about a woman who got a man by witchcraft, and he married her. They had several children. They were married for twenty five years, and she must have felt secure after twenty five years and I'm told with a spell like this, they pray the spell on you everyday, everyday to keep it on you. So after twenty five years she must have felt safe and become a little lax. Well the man sat up in bed one morning, and said to her, she was in his bed, she was his wife of twenty five years, and he said to her, "Who are you?" She said you're my husband. He said, "You're not my wife." And he found out that she, well I don't know if he found out if it was true, but he living in this house with this woman and these children, and he packed up and he left. He said, "I don't want to be with you." So, as far as I know, unless the person has Jesus Christ, you can keep a spell on a person for a very long time. It depends on a lot of factors, you see. It depends on whether or not the person is aware of it and has gone to another witch to help counteract what you're doing, or if the person is completely given over to it. You know we're really talking about tough things here. I've heard it said on the Internet, mostly on the Internet, that witches are really standing up for themselves and they even have an antidefimation league. They claim that they have misunderstood and maligned and mistreated for centuries. They have a definite problem with Christians who burnt so many witches at the stake. Well I want to tell you something brethren, I don't know what was going on in Salem in those days, I don't know that innocents weren't burned. I don't know. But I'm telling you what I see with my very own eyes, the absolute malicious danger in the hands of people who are not under the control of Jesus Christ. It's all over the t.v. It's in the movies, it's in books, people controlling other people's lives that have no strength whatsoever to resist, not only do the average person have no strength to resist, but they don't even know what's going on. They don't even know what hit them! An old friend of mine told me this story, I just don't want to name any names, actually it happened quite a few years ago; a man left his wife of twenty five years. He still had two teenage children; left his wife of twenty five years for another woman, to go live with another woman. He had been having an affair with her. You see, one of our biggest defenses is morality. She would have never had this hold on him if he wasn't having an affair, if he was absolutely determined that he would not engage in adultery, she couldn't have gotten a tow hold on him. But he was an adulterous man, and he had an affair with this woman, and after twenty five years, he up and left his wife and he went into financial ruin. He was a military, I think he was an army officer. He was a college graduate, well all officers are college graduates, he had a lot going for him, and he had a good pension coming his way. He left his for this woman, she took him into court, she got the whole pension. She got her decision from the judge, she got the whole pension. The man was penniless, and somewhere along the line decided that he did not want to marry this woman that he left his wife for. So he moved in with his young son, who had left home, who was only 19 years old, because he couldn't for whatever reason, things were really out of hand after his father left. And this woman who he was supposedly engaged to would come to the house at all hours of the night knocking on the door, and I'm told that she was working voodoo on him. So I said my goodness if she's doing that and she's working voodoo to get him back, don't you think she might have worked voodoo to get him away from his wife in the first place? The man has left town, he left town because this woman was after him with this witchcraft, with her witchcraft, he couldn't afford to live, his wife got his whole pension, so he ran off to Honduras. He never sees his children, and in Honduras for whatever reason, he can live. He can make enough money to live, whatever little bit he has. So you have to ask yourself, did this woman take him with witchcraft? So this is why, now look I am not advocating the burning of witches, I'm not advocating anything of the sort at all. What I'm saying to you is this witchcraft really gets out of hand, it really gets out of hand. It must be restrained. I'm not saying burning people was right, but it was largely shut down because of Christians. Our supreme court has let it loose, and it's coming out over our land like a blanket of serpents. There was actually a woman on t.v. being interviewed by the morning news program, as to how to cast a spell if you want a man. I'm telling you it's no joke. It's no joke. Okay, does anyone, I do have a couple of Scriptures that I think you might find very interesting. Does anyone want to add anything to this little discussion here? Comment: When you were saying the word spells, the word spelling came to me and it seems to me it's like the reverse of the creative word of God, it's like the curse of the other side. I never saw that til just now. Answer: Yes, it's the spoken word, the creative spoken word. Yes. Comment: And also the witches are claiming that they are being martyred. That's the word that they use. Answer: Well not now, you mean when they were burned that they were martyred. Comment: Well I understand that there are some places where they were still going after the witches. Answer: Well they're not burning them anymore. What are they doing to them? Comment: They are attacking them, and some claim that they are being killed. Answer: Oh really? Huh. Comment: I don't know how much of that is truth, but. Answer: Well brethren, now it comes to my attention that there is a real possibility that a lot of these totally irrational decisions being made by federal judges and supreme court justices could be the result of focused mind control being prayed on these people, the don't even know who is helping them make up their mind. Brethren I want to tell you that I'm pretty high in God, and I, there are times that I cannot tell who has spoken to me. I'm telling you outright, there are times when I cannot tell who has spoken to me. So if there's any question in my mind, well I try to put everything before the Lord because he does not move unless I ask him. He will let me obey the wrong voice and keep on walking until I realize something is wrong and say, "What happened, what happened Jesus?" And when I ask him what happened, he'll say, "Well you know what happened back there? It wasn't me." I'm telling you openly, there are times that I can't tell the difference, so if there's the slightest suspicion that the instruction in my mind is not right, I'm asking the Lord right away. How could people who are not where I am ever survive this? How don't care how brilliant a justice you are, if a group of witches are sitting around focusing on you, transmitting mind control instructions to you night after night after night after night, all of sudden you wake up with a brainstorm and you think it's your own. Did you want to say something? Comment: Last night on t.v. there was a commentator that said on the following program they were going to have scientist that would prove that all of these aliens and outside things come from within somebody's mind. Answer: Now where did you hear that? When is it gonna be on because I've been preaching that for a long time. It's on tonight? Very interesting, I've been preaching that for years that it's all coming from within the mind, and a couple of weeks ago there was a t.v. movie about, that was based on reality, based on a real event that a group of men, who were lumberjacks saw a saucer in the sky, and one of them were captured, one of the men was captured and had this horrendous experience. It was very interesting, because I tried to see it honestly and to see if it wouldn't relate to what I believe. If it doesn't relate to what I believe it doesn't relate, but I try to see if it can. Well out of this group of lumberjacks two men, they were two, they were all young men except for the head of the team married man, but the others were all young men full of beans, you know, and two of them were at odds with one another. They were really ready to, you know they were really against one another, constantly fighting and pecking at one another. This particular day, the two of them were standing there each one of them with an electric chain saw, you know, you could cut someone's arm off in a second, and it was like a stand off. They were both standing there with their chain saw staring at each other, to see if anyone dare, they were gonna have a dual. And one of the men was an Apache Indian. Well they came, they were on their way home from their work, and all of sudden this space ship appears, and the guy who was not the Apache, the other guy gets out of the car. It wasn't even rational, he just gets out of the car and he's just standing there looking at it staring at it up in the sky, staring it up, staring it up! Everyone in the car is scared. They are all yelling at him, "get in the car, get in the car, we want to get out of here, get in the car." And this man is just standing out there apparently fearless, just staring up at the sky, staring up at the sky, having no concern whatsoever that the other men were afraid or that they wanted to leave. It seemed quite irrational. It wasn't until the day I was thinking about this movie, thinking about this movie, it wasn't until the next day that it occurred to me that there was something said by the narrator in the movie that this was Apache territory and there myth that goes around that certain spirits come and steal the Apache children. It wasn't until the next day or two that is occurred to me that it was a possibility, if this event was to line up with my theory that all of these things come from within somebody's mind, that these two young men were at such odds with one another that this Apache young man might have cursed this other young man. It might have been just his absolute rage against him. It might not have been a conscious curse, because I tell you all the time anger is dangerous, there is murder that rides in anger. Anger that is not righteous anger must be resisted at all cost. It could have been the Apache's rage against him or maybe he outright cursed him. They were at such odds with one another. They're coming back and all of sudden a flying saucer appears, and out of all the men in the car, in the truck, this one guy that was at odds with the Apache gets out and behaves in such a strange manner, just looking at this, almost as if he was hypnotized by it, just standing there, standing there until they zapped him, and by a beam, carried him up to the ship by a beam. Now after this happened, the men went into town and told the police. It turned into a whole big riot in the town. The young men were accused of murdering the other young man because he disappeared. So the survivors were accused of murdering him, and I don't want to get into the whole movie, but they did agree to take a lie detector test, and the young man who was an Apache had a very poor reading, but there were possible extenuating circumstances. He had a record and the tester thought, "Well perhaps he was very nervous because he had a record he thought that this whole thing was going to be blamed on him." When I heard the Apache, and the Apache said that in the film, "You're gonna try and..." He took off, he disappeared. But the leader of the crew knew where he was, up in the Apache territory and he went looking for him. And the young Apache said to him, "What are you gonna do, try and blame this whole thing on me?" I said to myself, "How could he be saying that?" Here's this group of men driving along in this car and a flying saucer appears and one of them gets out of the car, he acts totally irresponsibly, totally irresponsibly and is captured. How could they blame this on this young man? I know that he had a record and maybe, I thought, "Well maybe he's paranoid", because you have a record people tend to look askance at you. I mean that's true, that's true about human nature, but why would he think that they would be blaming this whole thing on him, an abduction by a flying saucer? It didn't make any sense to me. But two days later it started to come to me, he might have had a revelation, he knew about that Apache myth about the spirits that came and took the children, and he might have even known, he might have, if he did curse him, if he did, if the young Apache did curse this other young man, then he had a real good idea that this whole incident was a result of this curse. But if he didn't curse him, he still had some kind of a revelation that his rage against him had manifested this whole incident. It's the minds of men brethren. The mind if very powerful, the mind is very powerful. We haven't seen all that much of it in this country because we have been under such a Christian cover. You know it's hard to believe that you know, we've been a nation of people that just go to church on Sunday, most of us you know. But just that faith in Jesus Christ has kept a righteous cover over this nation. We've broke, our cover is broken, we're being overrun with witchcraft curses, we haven't seen anything yet, and God only knows what's gonna be appearing in three years, God only knows. Yes? Question: Do you remember the story you told us a while back where Indians on a reservation were accused of murder and without a physical evidence they were convicted?

Answer: I do remember telling you that. I don't know if there was no physical evidence. I think what you probably mean, let me just clarify it for the people listening to the tape, there was no weapon. The people died, either died from heart attacks, so that's what you mean, there was no physical evidence, there was no, they weren't stabbed or shot or anything like that. But yes I spoke to a Cherokee chief in Cherokee, North Carolina, I questioned him, interviewed him along these lines and before he shut up, you know he realized at some point that I wasn't just an average person and he closed up, but up until that point he did tell me, yes it's still going on and that there are people, there are Cherokees doing time in federal prison right now for murder. And I asked him how the federal marshals prove a murder when the cause of death is suffocation or heart attack, at this point he looked at me askance and shut up, he said, "Well they have their ways, you know", and he wouldn't tell me anymore. Yes that is true, that is true. Yes there are people who can murder other people with their minds. So brethren if it's possible to murder somebody with your mind, is it so far fetched to think that especially if a group of people sit down on a daily basis and focus their mind on someone in public office or on a judge on the Supreme Court, and they are doing this everyday, that this high official will not be effected, and if he is not a person who is aware of spiritual things he might just think that, well he became a liberal or he changed his mind. I have had mind control change my mind. I have experienced it. Yes? Question: It gives new meaning to the words of Jesus, "If you hate your brother in your heart, you're a murderer." Even though you're not acting it out in behavior, the power of the mind he's telling us. Answer: That's very interesting, yes that's true and I also believe if you are not strong enough to kill the person some people are strong enough to make the person sick. That a hatred being pelted against somebody day in and day out and day in and day out will produce infirmity in that person. Now this of course, I'm not talking about people who living for Jesus Christ, I don't mean someone who calls himself a Christian, I'm talking about someone who is refusing to respond to this hatred, who is praying for this person, who's forgiving their sins, in that event the one who is hating is very likely to sick and could die. Okay, but if you're just an average Joe, if you're just an average person and someone is hating you and hating you and hating you, it can produce sickness in you and it can produce death depending on the strength of the individual that's doing the damage. Yes that's exactly what Jesus was talking about and also he said, " If you lust after that woman in your heart, you've committed adultery." Brethren I have been the recipient of lust by men who think that they are, that nobody knows what they are thinking! And I'm telling you that if you, that there are men who can lust powerfully enough and if the woman that they are lusting for is spiritually sensitive, she will be aware of their lust and can be attacked while she is sleeping. Now John Bradshaw had something to say about this. He didn't say exactly what happened, but he talks about a client that he had who was infatuated with his own daughter, and went to his wife and told her what was going on because he didn't want to touch his daughter, and his wife agreed to go along with a play acting, whereby she would dress up in the daughter's clothes and they would have marital sex. But in the man's mind he was having sex with his daughter, and this went on for a long time. John Bradshaw only said that these events impacted the daughter, in what way I don't know. But we do know that there is spiritual rape. Anybody that knows anything about spiritual things know that there is such a thing as spiritual rape. Question: I'm just thinking on this virtual reality that they have on this Internet, it's the same thing that's happening, these played out sexual things that come across in the mind, and they play it out via the screen. Answer: Yes, oh yeah, but that's the person is asking for it, I mean it's not rape, when you, am I misunderstanding what you are saying? Well yes this is a big issue of pornography on the Internet. There is not a doubt in my mind that the people who are engaging in interactive, that there's interactive sex, I don't know how far it goes because, I have no intention of finding out, but I know that there is interactive programs on the Internet with voice and sound and you could buy these head phones so that it becomes a 3-D experience for you. Well maybe people engaging in this actually believe in their mind, they must feel like they are having sex. It wouldn't surprise me at all. Okay, this sister said some people run off together, but that's a completely different issue. You are talking about people who meet on the Internet, I'm talking about an interactive program where you see a video picture of a woman engaging in sexual activity and if you put the headphones on and whatever techniques they have, I'm not familiar with it, there's not a doubt in my mind that if you're looking for a sexual experience that it could be very real, I believe it could be very real from what I know. So we're on the threshold, our nation is on the threshold of something very dangerous. What is dangerous? What is happening? There is an invisible world. There is an invisible that we are separated from by an invisible veil. We cannot see them. There are who knows how many of the worlds present right here in this room with us, but we cannot see them because they're in another dimension. There is also at least one other dimension; the spiritual part of this world beneath the firmament. The kingdom of God is from above the firmament. There is also a spiritual world or a heaven that is beneath the firmament. That's what heaven is, okay, that's what heaven is. It's a visible world. The word for heaven is waters in Hebrew. The word for heaven is waters, it's the waters of the creation, and the image of the world is on the waters. That's why the waters are so important. We've had so much teaching about this. When the waters are above the firmament the visible world is righteous, and when the waters are beneath the firmament the visible world is unrighteous, so there's an upper heaven and a lower heaven. Well down here this world where we are living in right now, it's underneath the firmament. The firmament is in us. The whole, the original abyss where Sheol in the Hebrew that the creation was being formed in, it's in us. Each human being is a cosmos, or an arrangement, or as we now know a black hole, because we are fallen. Everything that we read about or we understand about in the spirit or in the Bible is happening within us. So there is a spiritual side to this world. It's in us. Our spiritual part, I'm not talking about Jesus now, I'm talking about an average mortal man; our spiritual part is Satan, and there is a spiritual world that we cannot see because we are separated from it by a veil, and then there are apparently there are beings in this spiritual world. So what is happening is that the veil is deteriorating and all of the beings that are on the other side of the veil in the spiritual world underneath the firmament are going to be entering into this world where we live. They are going to be entering into it, they're going to be visible and they're going to be interacting with the human beings that live here, and they're superior to us brethren, outside of Jesus, now I'm not talking about Jesus Christ now. The example I could give you is modern man entering into Africa coming after the animals with shot guns, and cars and jeeps and whatever other tactics they used, mostly guns, to capture and kill the animals, cages, devices. These beings on the other side of the veil underneath the firmament are gods to us. What makes someone a god? A race that is superior. Humanity as we know it is a race of gods to the animals. Animals don't stand a chance against a man with a gun, or to a group of men. We've wiped the animals out. There are no more wild animals in, even in Africa, I've been to Nigeria, there's are no wild animals in Africa. You have to go to a zoo to see a wild animal in Africa. I understand they are still in Kenya but they're not in Nigeria. We've wiped them out. We are gods to the animals. You have a pet dog? You are a god to that dog. You feed it, you take care of it, you are god to it. Well these beings on the other side of the veil of this world, they are gods. You see Jehovah always said he's the greatest of all the gods, he never said they're were not other gods. They are gods to us because they are spiritually superior to the strongest man. Now I'm not talking about someone with Jesus Christ now. And the veil is deteriorating, they have been working for a very long time to bring down this veil, it's coming down and they are coming through. The beings from the other dimension of this world are coming into our world, and they are not coming to play potsy with us. They are coming to dominate us for their own purposes and their own gain, and as I look at all the signs it looks like it's going to be very soon. Probably, well it is happening already. All these people are having alien experiences, but it's not happening to humanity at large. Possibly within three years by the year 2000, there will be no veil left at all and these beings will be walking down the streets. Okay, Question: What you said before about Leviathan and Satan being separating by Jehovah is that the firmament that's um, the veil? Answer: I don't know but that's a very good idea. To be honest with you I hadn't thought about it before and it very well might be, I really don't know. It could be that we in this world are expressions of Leviathan and the beings on the other side are expressions of Satan. As the Lord has shown us here, the serpent is the foundation of the world beneath the firmament. We are born, every man that's born, every baby that's born has a relationship with the serpent because she if our foundation and she is connected to us through our carnal mind. Now the serpent is trying to establish a relationship to us through Satan, through our unconscious side, and when she succeeds in doing that, the serpent will then have access to that man both through Leviathan and through Satan, and a circle will be completed which will give the serpent unhindered access to that person. So you just may have hit on something there that just may be true, that this is what is happening, that this veil that's coming down is the serpent communicating with us through Satan, and when she connects with us that way, we'll be completely hers. Did you want to say something? Question: Cause Jehovah gave us the law that we weren't suppose to be getting involved in any of the occult things and it's being done continuously. Every time you turn on the TV they are offering psychic things and what have you. Answer: Yeah, it's really the, the advertisement for the psychics on the TV is very strong. Question: I had an experience this morning that um, I seem to um, be reading somebody else's mind that there was danger. I had gone into the store and returned something and then I went to look at a frame, and as I was looking at this frame this woman, a heavy set woman came in with a child and she came right to the frames that I was looking at and she started looking at the same frames, picture frames. She was standing and coming real close to me and it was like ten or eleven o'clock this morning and nobody was in the store except the cashier. And I had this awful feeling you know of danger, and I moved slightly to the side and she moved closer. And um, I decided I'm getting out of here, I'm getting away from her for some reason, I just felt it you know. And I turned around and here's another woman coming down the isle and it made me feel like something was gonna take place with this younger woman in all black. Both women were all in black. And I didn't like the feel of it, I just sensed something was gonna happen you know, and I moved quickly past this woman and went into another part of the store, and both of them were making, they seem to be making believe that they were looking at this stuff from the store you know, and I was getting a little bit apprehensive and I just went over the cards and looked over the cards and I watched them out of the corner of my eye and they were just going around the store not really into anything but just strolling you know. So um, I just decided I want to get out of here, I don't need anything in here and I scooted out. And I got into the car and I sat in the car and all of sudden I see the heavy set woman coming out of the store not buying anything. And it was such a strange feeling, it was almost like I was reading their mind that they were gonna do something to me. Question from Teacher: How were they dressed? Were the black pieces of clothing average? What were they, was it bazaar? Answer from Disciple: One was a young girl with a black jacket, a leather jacket, and kind of a short skirt, and she was a younger woman and the other woman was, she looked Italian and she had this whole black dress on, you know she was heavy set, and she had the little child with her, and just seemed like there was a scheme. Answer from Teacher: Well maybe they were thinking of robbing you. It's possible. Comment from Disciple: It just gave me the creeps, you know I just scooted out of there. And then when I saw the woman come out and didn't buy anything right after I came out, you know the heavy set woman with the child came out and walked along the sidewalk and looked over at me. I was just glad to get out and get in the car and just get away. Answer from Teacher: Well we don't want to get paranoid, but it really is possible you know that something was wrong. It could be that they wanted to rob you or it could have been something spiritual. I say it again, we don't want to be paranoid about this, but I cannot deny that there are all kinds of people out there. I know a couple of months ago when I went to get my hair done, and there was um, I didn't realize it was this woman at the time, but there's a woman that comes in there all the time and she's always reading people and prophesying to them, but she's probably a witch. I don't know if she's just someone who reads cards or if she's someone that really knows that she is a witch, I don't know, but she has this reputation in this beauty school where I go to get my hair done. Well this one day I was there, and I got up because I was asked to come and to get my hair washed, and she called to me, I didn't know it was this woman, and I turned around, cause when someone calls you, you turn around and you look at them to see what they want, she asked me a question that made no sense at all, I cannot remember what it was, but it made no sense at all, and I looked at her and we had eye contact, and she said something to the effect that, "oh no I realize that it's not you", so I never even responded to her, I just went to get my hair washed thinking about it. I said, "that was really strange, that was a weird thing for her to say to me, but there's a lot of weird people around (chuckle), and like I said we really don't want to be paranoid, you know. But after my hair was done and I was getting ready to leave, I went into the ladies room, oh when my hair was being dried, she was sitting next to me in the next chair giving, when I say she was prophesying I mean she was giving counsel, telling people you know like a fortune teller, this is what's gonna happen in your future. She was talking to this young girl, I don't remember what it was about, but I know it offended me because I knew she shouldn't have been talking to this young girl like this, that it was a fortune telling kind of thing and she shouldn't have been doing it, and the girl was eating it up, she didn't know anything about it. I may have, to be honest with you I don't recall, I may have rebuked it, I very well may have rebuked it, but I don't remember. Well my hair was dry and I went into the ladies room before I left. As soon as I get in there, there is a banging on the door. So I said, "Well it could be someone that didn't know that I just came in there", and I said, "I'll be out soon", and I just did what I had to do and when I opened the door, there is this woman, now she had to know that I went in there because she was sitting right in the next chair to me. She had to follow me right in there, and there she is standing as big as life, just filling up the doorway, just eye contact, just meeting my eyes. So I just walked out. Now, I suspect that it's a possibility that she spiritually recognized me. When she called me the first time, you see it's the eye contact, the eye contact is very important. When she called me the time she looked at my eyes. She really did not want an answer to her question. What she wanted was to look at my eyes, you see, and then for all I know, knowing myself I probably rebuked it when she was talking to that young girl, she may have heard it you know. And um, for all I know she cursed me, you see if she cursed me I didn't feel it, cause I'm very defensed you know. As a matter of fact I probably broke all the curses, I don't remember, but I probably walked out of there and broke all of the curses and prayed against her. As far as I know I had no problem, nothing ever touched me, because I'm pretty defensed. I saw what was going on, I dealt with it and it never touched me. But I suspect, if you want my opinion, I would say that when she caught me face to face like that, when she was filling that door way of that ladies room, that she cursed me. And I've been cursed before. Those of you that know my testimony, I was cursed unto death by a witch. I was at a meeting in Harlem when I was a disciple. I went with my pastor and my church and we were a ministry that had some power. So the word went out all over Harlem that my pastor was there and he had some power and that night there were a lot of witches in that meeting. There were a lot of witches in that meeting! It was a very spiritual meeting. My pastor who was a strong, he was pretty young, I think he was in his thirties at the time, strapping young man who was used to ministering on his feet for hours couldn't stand. They had to bring a chair for him so that he could sit down. Were you there that night in Harlem? Remember when they had to bring a chair for him and he had to sit down? I was in that church for five years, I had never seen that before or since, and there was very heavy spiritual power there. I went down to the ladies room and as I came back this man in the first row who I had no, you see, you know things come to me years later, I just realized now that I was sitting in this row and I saw this man a couple of rows ahead of me and he was openly throwing curses at our pastor with his hands, with hand movements. It was obvious to me he was throwing curses, I had touched a sister next to me and I said, "sister look at that, that man, he's throwing curses", and we prayed against it. Now he must have heard those prayers. I was so naive in those days, to go to the ladies room, I had to go past him. And when I came back up he grabbed my arm with one hand and he caught my attention so that I couldn't see what he was doing and asked me some question and with his finger sliced my lifeline, and I knew that in the spirit he had slit my wrist. I was hysterical. I didn't say anything to anybody, I was so frightened I cried all the way home and all that night, and I was so frightened and finally I said, "well this is ridiculous, if the Lord's gonna let him do it to me, I guess I'm dead, there's no point in being afraid." And I prayed all the prayers I knew how, I broke all the curses, I did everything I knew how and I said Lord I'm in your hands. The next service I went into I told the whole church and the whole church prayed for me. Obviously I didn't die, and not only did I not die, but it turned out that the man was reconciled to Jesus. But he must have heard my prayers. He must have knew that I prayed against him. So these things happen, you know, I don't want to panic anybody but I'm not gonna tell you that they are not happening because you need to know that they are happening, and you have to be sharp enough to know that if someone is looking, if something strange, did you break curses? I rebuke you, in the name of Jesus Christ I rebuke you! Comment from Disciple: Well I felt that this was a warning, when I saw it happening, I felt that God was warning me. Answer from Teacher: Well let's hear you break the curses, do it now. Warfare prayer from Disciple: Right now I do, I break those curses in the name of Jesus, I rebuke Leviathan in each one of those women in the name of Jesus and um... Question from Teacher: Do you forgive their sins? Answer from Disciple: Oh I forgive sins. Prayer from Teacher: We forgive their sins and we ask the Lord to have the same mercy on them that he had on us, but we're not about to let them hurt us, okay, Amen and Amen, we turn them over to the Lord Jesus for whatever he decides to do with them. Counsel from Teacher: You've got to come out of this sister, you've got to come out of this passivity, you know, you've got to come out of it. Prayer: "I strip that veil off your eyes and I strip that passivity off of you, I strip it off of your mind, that lethargy that's on your mind and I command it to leave you." Okay so I'm saying it again, we cannot go around paranoid now, but we need to know that there are witches out there and that they recognize us. They recognize us, and we've got to stop being little lambs just trotting around, not facing the fact that there's evil out there. We've got to face the fact that there's evil in us, and outside of us, that we are in a criminal world. As I presume my studies, on the level that we are on now, one of the points that the Lord is emphasizing, emphasizing, emphasizing, is that we will never recognize that there is evil. We must recognize that there is evil, we must recognize that evil in ourselves, and we must be able to recognize it in other people, without panicking, without being afraid, without being paranoid, we must know that it's there and we must recognize it when we see it, if we have any hope of ascending out of this world. And the whole message of the politically correct movement today is everybody's good. Everybody's good, just make sure they're fed, give them an education, and there won't be anymore problems in this world, because people are good. This is the message that's throughout the whole country today. We'll never get out of hell with that message. We don't have to condemn people, we don't have to criticize people, but we must know the reality of our condition if we are to have any hope whatsoever of getting out of here. And if you're listening to these tapes, if you are associated with this ministry in any way, if you're that far along spiritually, the people are looking for you, and you just cannot be this naive, I'm talking to anybody who's listening to this tape, you have to recognize it and pray. You see you recognized it, but you didn't do anything about it. Well I don't want to be too hard on you, thank God that you recognized it. Okay, but you've got to start doing something about it. This is one of the major thrust of the message that's coming forth here right now. We must recognize the evil. Adam fell because he could not recognize the evil. He knew the evil was there; Jehovah had told him, but he didn't see the activity of the evil. He didn't recognize what she was doing until it was too late. We can fall from where we are now, we can fall to a lower position. Anything can happen, this is not a fear message, this is a message that's suppose to be rousing you to understand that you are in the army. Now if you are in the middle of a war, if you are in Vietnam, you have to know that when you get out of your fox hole that someone could be shooting at you, but of course this war is an invisible war. We can't see it so we are at a disadvantage. If you are in Vietnam with the bombs falling all over the place, you know that you have better take up your gun when you get out of your fox hole. We're in an invisible war, so it's much harder, but we're in a war, and apparently as we mature spiritually there are people out there that are in ungodly spiritual power that are recognizing us. They recognize us when they see us. Listen brethren I have words of knowledge all the time, I know what a lot of people think. Well there must be people who know what I think. I know what a lot of people think. I know what's going on in their lives. I know their hidden motives a lot of the time, not all of the time, usually when it just concerns me, or someone that is under me. I couldn't possibly take on the whole world, so there had to be a connection somewhere. But if there are people that I know who's thoughts I know, then there are people who know my thoughts. We don't even know the extent of it. I had a little problem, just by way of example, I had a little problem with our web page on the Internet, the company that we have our web page through just decided to change our address. I'm sure that it was just a business reorganization, I'm praying for them, I hope that they stay in business because we pay a very cheap price and I think they are two young fellows there, I pray that God blesses them, if for no other reason that they gave us such a cheap price. Well anyway our address changed. I've been trying for three months to get one of the major search engines called Yahoo to change our address. I haven't been able to get them to change our address. Now what happens is that if you go into our old address there's a bookmark there that says we've moved, this is our new address. Well they kept that up for about a month, but our address still wasn't changed. All of these people like going through the yellow pages looking for Bibles and books, they were getting the old address. So I called up the company that keeps our web page, I said, "Please put it back up", they said, "Okay", and they put it back up again. I still cannot get yahoo to change our address. It was like a whole big confusion, I knew it was an attack from the enemy, but the fact is our address wasn't changed. Now over the last couple of weeks orders have really fallen off. I just assumed it was because it was Christmas and New Year, and then the orders fell off even more, and I said, "Oh boy, I better check this out. My last communication with the people we rent from was, "I will let you know when the problem is solved. Okay, well I went into the address, the bookmark was down. There was no forwarding address. So I called up the company that we deal with and there was answering machine so I left a message, I sounded a little stirred, I guess I was annoyed, you know it's okay to be angry if you don't sin. I just let them know I was annoyed, I said, "Look I never asked you to change our address. It's caused me, we have hundred of books out there with an old address on it if nothing else, okay, I never asked you to change our address and it's not my fault that I'm having this problem with Yahoo, and I thought it was agreed that you would keep that bookmark up until the problem was solved. Please put it back up. And within an hour this fear came on me, fear that this company was so annoyed at the way I talked to them that they were gonna cancel us out and we'd have to take a web page at some high price. Now I never tolerate fear, I don't tolerate fear so I started rebuking it within myself because it was fear. And then I said to myself, "hey wait a minute, this is really crazy, I don't care how cheap our price is, if I'm paying, if you're in business and I'm paying you fifteen dollars a month, and there's nothing to do, I mean these companies that rent out web pages, the way it works is they have a computer and their computer is up and running twenty four hours a day, and there's nothing, they could have fifteen hundred people that have web pages through their company. The initial installation of the web page is work, but once it's up, it's like you are paying rent for doing nothing, it's free money. Are you following me? So if I'm paying you fifteen dollars a month for doing nothing for doing nothing, why would want to lose my fifteen dollars a month? Because you didn't like the way I talked to you? You're gonna go tell me to take a flying leap and lose my fifteen dollars a month? Does that make any sense at all, does that make any sense? It doesn't make any sense to me. I started thinking about it and I said, "Hey, I bet you he's afraid I'm gonna leave him. I bet you he's afraid I'm gonna go someplace else, and I think that's what it was because I checked it out, and he never called me, but the bookmark was back up. It must have been his fear that he was gonna lose a customer. It was all over me and it comes on me as my fear. When you become spiritually sensitive, you really have to have this wisdom or your whole life is effected by other people's emotions. It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare that I went through for years if you know, if you recall my testimony before I found out what was going on in my life. I was upset, I didn't know why I was upset. Now I know this young man that's married to this very angry young woman and he's a very easy going guy, and she's angry all the time. He told me once, I could come home and I'm as happy as could be and all of sudden I'm in an absolute snit. I didn't feel it was appropriate to tell him, but there's not a doubt in my mind it's his wife's rage touching him. And he says, "I don't even know why, I'm as mad as a hornet and I don't even know what I'm mad at!" That's what he said to me, "I don't even know what I'm mad at!" I felt like saying, "I know what you're mad at, it's your wife's anger ripping right through you." Brethren we have no idea the extent to which we are influenced by other people's passions. It's strong emotion, strong emotion, anger and lust, anger and lust. Watch out for other people's anger and other people's lust because when it starts to touch to, it will touch you like it's your own, and it's not yours. You're not lusting for that man, he's lusting for you. And I guess it could be reversed, but most of the time it's from the man to the woman, but it could be from a woman to a man. I'm telling you it's a dangerous game. You see the laws of morality will protect you. Thou shalt not fornicate, thou shalt not commit adultery, if you live by the law, you are protected, you just don't do it. Thou shalt not murder, thou shalt not steal, you just don't do it, but not many are living by the law today. What are you doing, why did you do it? I don't know. Someone else's mind ripping through you, it's scary. You have teenage children going away to college that if you try to tell them this kind of thing wouldn't even want to listen to you or would scare them half to death. I saw Montel Williams the other day. There's a drug out called ruphies. Have you heard about it? It's a legal drug. It is not a illegal drug, and people are slipping it into the young ladies drinks. They go out for a social evening at a bar, turn their head away and the guy pops a pill into her drink and she's so completely out that she goes to a motel with twelve guys. It was full face on TV screen saying, if that's what you do, if that's your lifestyle, if you socialize, where you drink, and he said it doesn't have to be an alcoholic beverage, it could be a coke or water, okay, he says, "If you turn your face away from the drink for a second, reject the drink. What does it cost you, a dollar and a quarter for soda, three or four dollars for a drink, if for whatever reason you're distracted, he said it takes on second, they work in teams. Someone calls your attention, the other guy pops it in. If you turn your face away from your drink for a second, get rid of it. It's quite amazing what's going on today, and we haven't seen anything yet. We haven't seen anything yet! This is just the beginning. Praise the Lord. Well, does anybody else have anything to say along these lines? Question: I was just thinking what you said about the young girls, they have no memory for the most part the next day. Answer: yeah, and then he was talking about another drug that's being sold. He said it's illegal for those who steal it, but it's a veterinarian's drug. It is a cat tranquillizer. It is a pill that they give to animals when they are going to perform surgery on them. It dulls all pain, and apparently there are people who are stealing it from the veterinarians and selling it. Now that's illegal because you've stolen it, but to find, if the police find this drug in your possession, it's not illegal. They can't do anything about it. There was this beautiful girl up there, and Montel, he was all carried away, he was really upset. I like him, I think he's real. I hope I'm not being fooled, but I think he's real. And he was saying, "You are taking a drug that is given to cats as a tranquillizer. It means you can't feel anything. So you could be hurt and not even know that you're, why are you taking this drug? No answer, no answer, no answer. So brethren I see the whole bottom falling out. I really do see the whole bottom falling out. I hope that I'm not being a pessimist. There are others in this country that say we're going to rally and come around. I can't see this downward trend turning around. I cannot see it, and I do not believe that if all of the Christians in this country pray on a regular basis that they are powerful enough to turn around this downward trend. I don't believe it. I think that our own sin is finding us out, and I don't think it's gonna happen. I think we are gonna have to be judged by our own wickedness and that repentance will have to come forth, not because someone is praying repentance on us, but because the fruit of our own sin brings forth repentance. That's how I see it. If I'm a pessimist, let God correct me. In accordance of all this, my prayer is that the Lord raise up the faithful, raise us up into spiritual power, so that we will stand above it and be in a position to help others that the Lord directs us to, but I see the bottom falling out. I thank God that I have a roof over my head, that there is heat in this house, that I have food, that I have car, and I hope that everything stands. We don't know what's coming, we don't know what's happening. So I'm just throwing all myself to the fullest extent that I can into what I know to do, to go forward with my spiritual growth. I don't know what else to do. But the Lord said, "Don't be distressed, look up for your redemption draweth nigh." It's the hour of crisis. Anybody else?