Linc's WebSite: Computer Collection


Since no hard-core computer junkie would be complete without his or her very own computer collection, I was compelled to have one myself. Seriously though, I owe a great deal to these machines and they hold a special place for me and some, a significant place in computer history. Interestingly enough the old 8-bits can still be found tooling around here and there and (yes it's true) they ALL can be and are used currently to connect even to the internet! (Believe it or Not!)
"A little Nostalgia here"



Commodore Computers:
Commodore VIC 20
This was my very first computer and I really love this thing. My original one was sold long ago, however, I just found a "new" one to tinker on a short time ago. I picked it up at a flea market for just $10 and it came with all cables/power supply/manuals and Omega Race & Slot carts (what a bargain!).
VIC-20
Commodore 64
I have 2 of these (plus a couple for parts) and tons of software, a good assortment of carts, manuals, and peripherals. My original C64 cost me around $100 (used-1986?) from a friend and the other working model I have was picked up at a flea market for $20 with a monitor, a printer, and 2 1541 disk drives (+ more manuals, and software and a fastload cart).
Commodore 128
There are 3 of these in the collection. The first 2 came with a ton of manuals, 1571 disk drives, 1 1750 REU (512K), a monitor, and a stack of software. They were both GIVEN to me for FREE! :) Gotta Love it! The 3rd I picked up at a flea market for $20 complete with computer, VIC-1541 disk drive (works great), 1571 disk drive (questionable), around 200 miscellanious disks, and an Okidata Okimate 20 printer.
Commodore 16
This great little computer brings back many memories. The first one I ever used was at a friends house many years ago. Something about that black color on the breadbox style case really made this computer slick. This one was purchased at a flea market complete with original box, intro cartridge, power, and manuals along with a Laser 128 Apple II compatable for a measley $20.
Commodore PLUS/4
My first Plus/4 was a Christmas present, and was sold while I was in College. I just picked another up for $5 complete with all the power and cables (in the Box!) at a Salvation Army thrift shop.

Apple Computers:
Apple II+
I Picked one of these up at a flea market complete with B/W monitor and Disk II drive for a mere $10. I taught a BASIC programming course on these and the //e's while I was in high school!
Apple //e
I have 3 of these (all enhanced versions - none are platinum) in the collection. Picked up 1 for $30 complete with 2 Disk II drives and color monitor, and the second for $20 with 2 Unidisk drives and a color monitor, paddles, joysticks, mice, and a wad of software. The third came from the Salvation Army with a mono monitor and an Apple Immagewriter I for $9.99. The first has a grappler printer interface and a mouse card, and the second two came with super serial interfaces. All have ample Disk II and Unidisk floppy drives.
Apple IIc
I own 2 of these. My father-in-law bought the first for my daughter since her school !still! uses Apple II computers. It came with a monitor, manuals, a printer, and a good bit of software all for $90. That might sound a bit steep, but we live on the east coast and he had it shipped from California :-) The second came from a friend for free. It's an old one but works great and is a bit less yellow than the first (however they are both very clean). I have it hooked to a IIc mono monitor and 2 external unidisk drives. (BTW I also do own a IIc external drive, but I am trying hard not to ruin that one).
Apple IIC+
This was a steal! I paid $35 for my IIc+ and it came with a monochrome monitor and an external IIc drive. It is in pristine shape and runs Apple II software like an Indy car! It's hooked to a Color Monitor, and a DuoDisk drive. As far as Apple II computers go - this is an awsome thing to behold. I also use this computer, hooked to an old external 2400 baud modem, as a remote Sco Unix terminal for work. Seems to be one of the very few computers anyone can get a reliable connection with.
Laser 128
The Laser 128 is an Apple //e, IIc clone produced by V-Tech. From what I understand there aren't many floating around the U.S. because Apple slapped them with a lawsuit as fast as they could to protect their IIc sales. Anyhow, I picked my Laser 128 up at a flea market along with a IIc power brick (brick on a rope) and the above Commodore 16 system for a measley $20. The computer works well with the exception of the keyboard. The reset key does nothing and some of the letters on the keycaps are worn off. I had it hooked up recently through my trusty VCR to play Karateka, so I know the internal 5.25" drive and computer it'self works well. By the way, Kareteka is a great game!

Tandy Computers (Radio Shack):
Tandy TRS-80 MC-10
Only 1 of these in the collection, but I have to say these things are pretty cool. I found it for (get this) $3 in a garage sale with the original box, manuals and cables (still in the wrapper!). The only thing I am lacking with this is a tape recorder cable (but that's 'cause I am too lazy to make one so far). I would really like to procure an original :-) Also they made a 16K ram expander for these, and the last time I was at the flea market I just happened to see one - Didn't get it then, but maybe next week? (by the way, that 16k ram expander had another MC-10 attatched to it).

Some Noteables:
GRiDCase 3
This gridcase laptop is a fantastic little computer. It's a 8086 or 8088 (know any way to tell for sure?) IBM PC/XT compatable running at approx 4 mhz with 640 KB ram. A friend gave this to me (probably out of frustration). I have to say that getting any external software to run on this machine was tricky. It came with 2 10 meg external hard drives, and, of course, they had old business apps on them that had to be removed so I could have some playing room on the drive. The most frustrating part of this computer is that it has a proprietary version of MSDos in on-board ram that it defaults to at startup. It also has MSDos 3.2 on an eprom chip that you can also use. I, however, wanted to "upgrade" it a bit and use Dos 6.22 on the machine. Ha ha. Eventually I figured out that the 3.5" drive on the side was only 720k and I made a 720k dos 6.22 startup disk an popped it in - but it STILL booted from ram. After Exhausting research, I found that after the initial "beep" you can press "F" to boot from the floppy drive, or "H" to boot from the hard drive - VIOLLA! At any rate, It now run's on Dos 6.22 off the hard drive quite well. It also runs a 12x CDRom drive (in a BackPack CDRom case), an external modem (at 2400 baud), terminal software, a BBS, and many misc games :-)
P133
This is a home brew machine scraped up from odds and ends. This is my SCO box. Since I am practically addicted to UNIX I run quite a few different flavors of it. This one runs SCO OSRV on a P133 with 32 megs of ram and a couple 2 gig HDD's quite nicely I might add.
Toshiba Satellite T2400CT
This is my laptop. A fantastic computer, 486 dx 40mhz with 24 megs of ram, 320 mg internal HDD, active color display, very clean. I really love this laptop. I run RedHat Linux 5.2 on this and use it for absolutely everything. My standard excessory pack for this laptop is a 3com network card, 56k pcmcia modem, 6 Gig Backpack hard drive, and 12x backpack CDRom drive complete with on board sound card that I don't always carry with me (the rest is heavy enough).
My Current PeeCee
My current general all-purpose home computer is an Intel Pentuim 200 MMX, 64 mgs of ram, 6.2 Gig hard drive and NEC 4x 4 CDRom changer. I run 8 meg accelerated super VGA, and use my HP 560C printer regularly. This machine is the HUB of my computer collection. I run Linux on this machine and use it as my internet gateway for the rest of my computers, as a general workstation, and as another server. A note of interest is that this computer ran like a brick under Windows 98 but it is extremely quick under Linux power.

Unix ONLY:
Sun Sparcstation 1
These are really great computers - albeit quite slow :-) AUI network connection w/ 10BaseT tranceiver hooks this up to my LAN. Currently this machine is running Linux (Solaris is WAY too slow) on an 8 gig HDD and 16 megs of ram and a VT100 Dumb Terminal. I got this with another just like it and a 1+ all for free/parts and managed to get this one working. Check back for the story of how it was done....WHAT A PAIN!
Super Workstation 2
A litle faster than the Sparcstation 1, this Sun Sparcstation 2 clone also runs Linux on an 8 gig HDD with 32 megs of ram and a VT100 Dumb Terminal. The AUI w/ 10BaseT tranceiver let's this machine hook to my LAN and make a nice little server! Got this machine for free from a company that was looking to throw it away.

Looks a lot like a Sparcstation (pizzabox) but case is completely made of metal.
Sun Sparcstation 20
Ahh, I love this machine! This Sparc 20 has a 1 gig HDD running as a Linux Workstation (told ya already Solaris was too slow), 256 megs of ram, a decent framebuffer, 10BaseT network card, and a HUGE 22" Ikegami monitor. This is my favorite workstation although I can only get 8 bit color. Got this machine for free from the same company as the Sparc 2 at the same time I also got a Sparcstation 5 and 2 Sparcstation IPX's which I gave away to good homes.
Hewlett Packard 9000/730
I have to say that these are nice machines! This is an Apollo 9000/730 workstation with 64 megs of ram, a 1 gig HDD, nice framebuffer, AUI w/ 10BaseT tranceiver for networking, and another of those huge 22" monitors and it runs HPUX 10.20. This also makes quite a nice workstation, and I am sure a server as well if I had a bigger hard drive. I paid $100 for this machine specifically beacuse I like UNIX and wanted to have something to run HPUX on. I honestly believe I got a *very* good deal! By the way, these things feel like they weigh about 300lbs - I am sure they would also make winderful boat anchors for battleships or something of the sort. A side note is that I recently was given a 715/50 and a 9000/730 non working extras.. I may be able to get one or both going, however, if not, they both have memory which I may be able to add to my working 9000/730!
Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/35
I have 2 of these. Not much to say about these yet as I don't entirely have them working :-) I got them in trade for an old Linux box. They are both intact, each with dual hard drives and a scsi floppy. I do not have a monitor, mouse or keyboard for eather one and am currently searching for them. They both boot via dumb terminal to the boot prom and look to be quite functional. One of them has IRIX 4.0.3 on it and is password protected (root password) so I can't get into it. The other has no operating system on it, and I don't have any copies of IRIX laying around :-) I guess I'll have to rely on the kindness of some stranger to help me get this running under it's original operating system, or hang out and wait for the port of NetBSD or Linux to be finished.. Stay tuned for more!
DECstation 2100
Also known as DEC PMIN this workstation was introduced in 1989 at an original cost of $7,995. It sports a 12.5 MHz RISC archetecture processor running around 10.4 MIPS. It currently runs NetBSD. I also have a DEC expansion box that goes with this machine and looks identical to it's case.
DECstation 5000/125
Also known as DEC 3MIN this workstation was introduced in 1991 at an original cost of $12,995. It sports a 25 MHz RISC archetecture processor running around 22 MIPS. It currently runs Ultrix 4.2.
DECstation 5000/33
Also known as DEC Maxine this workstation was introduced around 1992/3/?. It sports a 33 MHz RISC archetecture processor. It currently runs Ultrix 4.2, and there are 2 of these in my collection! These are great little Unix boxes along with the other DECstations I have. Although Ultrix runs well, I can't wait for a solid Linux port that can make use of the framebuffers, etc..

Interesting Tidbits:
There are just a couple things I thought would be worth mentioning here, and the first is my admiration and compassion for anyone that shares the computer collecting hobby. I know the thrill of the hunt first-hand, however I also know the problems we encounter with space (where to put it after you get it home), and the ever recurring frustration of your loving spouse when you "tote more of that old junk into the house" :-) To be sure, it is an interesting hobby and well worth the effort - although my wife may politely disagree...

Care and feeding of Elderly Computers:
An interesting observation of mine is that most computers that reach my doorstep are in absolutely filthy condition. How do you clean them without damaging them? Good question! The answer I have found is to be VERY careful. I start with a paper towel and spray some Windex on it (never spray directly on the computer). After the initial layers of gunk have been removed, I carefully disassemble the computer and soak any plastic parts (cases, keycaps, etc) in very warm water and dish detergent for several hours. Clean contacts with alcohol and Q-tips (in severe cases, you might need a brillo pad). Clean circut boards with Q-tips, Canned Air, warm water (on Q-tip), and Alcohol (on Q-tip). Wipe clean and dry plastic parts, and re-assemble. If you HAVE to store them (see my opinion on this below) please make sure to pack them in their original container if you have it or bag them (inexpensively) in trash bags. If you use trash bags, do yourself a favor and use the black bags as the plastic on many of these old computers is highly UV sensitive and yellows easily. If you are planning on actually using them (Good For You!) also keep the UV alert in mind and keep them if at all possible in a dimly lit room away from sunlight and excessive heat.
Be sure to check those old systems for chip creep, and remember that chip creep can also happen from large and prolonged room temperature fluctuations and not just power on/off component heating.

Accumulation and Protection of Media:
There isn't much to say on this topic except grab everything you can, put old software on new media if at all possible, and guard it with your life. Seriously though, your old computer doesn't do much but look pretty if you can't run any software on it. Many times your computer aquisition won't come with any software, so always be on the lookout. It's getting harder and harder to find the software and manuals for aging computer systems, and when it's gone, it's gone. Please get what you can, keep it working, and if your nice, help support other collectors with copies where applicable.
As far as finding blank media, there isn't much to say. It is difficult but not impossible to find 360k 5.25" floppies - in fact I have found several boxes on clearance in Walmart. 720k 3.5" floppies are almost impossible to find (at least in my area of eastern PA). I don't need 8" floppies for any of my systems, but I understand that they are extremely hard to come by, however, I have seen them for sale a time or two on E-bay. Good Luck!

Computer Collecting:
I realize that this hobby has seen a boom lately - especially on e-bay where the hounds are selling anything and everything for incredible amounts of money (I personally can remember a Commodore 128 system selling for $500). You know when they are looking for some serious dough when the computer is preceeded by the words "RARE" or something of the sort.
I do have a couple of personal gripes about some other "collectors". One thing that annoys me is seeing people with large quantities of the same computer type who are unwilling to part with any. These people are hoarders, and make it hard for legitimate collector/users to obtain a working model of that computer. An example I ran across lately is a person who has 30 some odd Commodore 64's. Another gripe I have is people who collect computers but don't use them. I have 26 systems listed above and use them all. In fact, I have plans to set up a retrocomputer lab to help teach youngsters about computing history, basic programming skills, and give them the opportunity to actually use interesting old computers. Let them know you can actually accomplish something without Microsoft Windows or a PeeCee. What is the point in having all those nifty old computers if you are going to keep them boxed/bagged up in a corner of your basement? Get them out and breathe a little life into them - show someone they are still useful.

Procurement Tips and Suggestions:
Just where do you find that old computer you've been dreaming about? Well, I try several different things regularly. One place to find that venerable computer system is your local Thrift Store. I have had good luck with these places - especially with 8-bit systems and old XT's, and the price is almost always absurdly low - around the $5-$10 range. Another good place to find old computers is at a flea market. The best flea markets to search are those which have a revolving vendor base (they rent cheap tables to anyone). These are usually outdoor flea markets. Indoor flea markets are not quite as good because the same vendors are there all the time - selling exactly the same stuff. If you do have an indoor flea market, you can try asking the regular vendors there to be on the lookout for you though - sometimes they actually will. The next place I look occasionally is at yard sales. I have noticed that you usually will not find anything there but when you do, they are usually happy to have you cart that "junk" away for a couple dollars. Last but not least, let all your friends and family know about your hobby, and if you can, print up a little advertisement or sign and see if you can hang it at your local computer store.

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