Ui Neill DNA
| A fairly recent DNA study by Trinity College focused
largely on the Ui Neill of Ireland, identifying a set of
genetic markers they thought represented descendants of
Nial 'of the Nine Hostages', the fabled High King of
Ireland who died ca. 400 AD. Their sample consisted of
the following surnames: (O')Gallagher (12), (O')Boyle (9), (O')Doherty (5), O'Donnell (4), O'Connor (3), Cannon (3), Bradley (2), O'Reilly (2), Flynn (2), (Mc)Kee (2), Campbell (1), Devlin (1), Donnelly (1), Egan (1), Gormley (1), Hynes (1), McCaul (1), McGovern (1), McLoughlin (1), McManus (1), McMenamin (1), Molloy (1), O'Kane (1), O'Rourke (1), and Quinn (1). These surnames may be assigned to the following clan
affiliations:
According to Trinity College "about one in five males sampled in northwestern Ireland is likely a patrilineal {descendent of a single early medieval ancestor." The following table shows the traditional descent of these families from Nial. |
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Cairenn = Eochaidh Mugmedón = Mong Fionn
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Nial Noígiallach Brion Fiachra Ailill Fergus Cáechán
'of the Nine Hostages' [Ui Briuin] [Ui Fiachrach]
High King +405
| O'Connor O'Shaunnessy
| O'Rourke O'Clery
| O'Reilly O'Dowd
| MacDermott O'Cahill
| [Ui Briuin] [Ui Fiachrach]
| Connachta
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Eoghan (Owen) Conall gulban Enna Conal cremthaine Láegaire Maine
McLaughlin O'Donnell Southern Ui Neill
O'Neill O'Doherty
Bradley O'Gallagher
Gormley O'Boyle
Devlin McMenamin
O'Kane Cannon
Donnelly
Cenel Eoghain Cenel Conaill
| Conspicuously absent from the list of surnames
identified by the Trinity College team as descended from
the Nial 'of the Nine Hostages' were the O'Neills,
although a previous sampling included 80 O'Neill DNA
samples. Also absent from the list were surnames
associated with the southern Ui Neill (although
MacLoughlin and Molloy may have been intended as
representatives).. The following table of DNA markers has been identified (and since confirmed by SNP testing [M222+] as the Ui Neill DNA signature, also known as the Northwest Irish DNA signature. Markers in "bold" are the most important markers. A match at all or most of these important markers virtually assures one of being descended from the Ui Neill. This is referred to as the Ui Neill or NW Irish modal. |
The Ui Neill or NW Irish Modal |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
| 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
| Most but not all McLaughlin DNA samples from public databases match the Ui Neill modal perfectly. Here are a few examples from Ysearch. Misses to the modal are highlighted in yellow. |
| McLaughlin from Letterkenny, Donegal (9F7N8) - 25 marker test |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
| 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 18 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 24 | 15 | 18 | 31 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
| McLaughlin from Tryone (9U9WS) - 12 marker test |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
| 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 |
| McLaughlin from Scotland (TQ4VB) - 25 marker test |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
| 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
Non Matching McLaughlin DNA
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389i |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389ii |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
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| Ui Neill Modal |
13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
| ZNU7V | 13 | 24 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 15 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 13 | 13 | 28 | |||||||||||||
| 3HV57 | 13 | 24 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 15 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 11 | 15 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 16 |
ZNU7V = McLaughlin from Ireland
3HV57 = McLaughlin from Armagh Co., Ireland
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| For comparison purposes, here is a 25 marker test for an O'Doherty from Inishowen (SZ8DF). The O Dohertys were Cenel Conaill, descended from Conall Gulban, son of Nial 'of the Nine Hostages.' |
O'Doherty of Inishowen (SZ8DF). |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
| 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
O'Gallagher of Londonderry(92VDK). Also Cenel Conaill. |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
| 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
| This last sample is particularly interesting since the testee has been SNP tested and is M222+ (positive). Haplogroups are actually determined by SNPs and not by STR markers. |
| As you can see from the above examples the McLaughlins and O'Dohertys match perfectly on all of the important DNA markers. According to the Trinity College team this means both are descendants of Nial 'of the Nine Hostages.' But things aren't quite that simple. The Connachta (descended from brothers of Nial) also match the Ui Neill modal and they cannot in any sense be called Ui Neill (descendents of Nial). The common ancestor of all three therefore must precede Nial himself - how far back is a matter of dispute among DNA experts. Trinity places the common ancestor at about the time of Nial - others disagree and say the common ancestor might have lived as much as 4,000 or more years ago. The jury is still out on the dating but one thing is sure - Nial 'of the Nine Hostages' is not the common ancestor of the Cenel Eoghain, Cenel Conaill and Connachta. It must go back further than him. How far back is the only question. |
The Connachta
| Here are a few Connachta DNA samples (O Flannagan from Roscommon and McGovern of Leitrim, both Ui Briuin, or descended from Brion, brother of Nial 'of the Nine Hostages.') |
| O Flannagan of Roscommon (T8S89). |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
| 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
McGovern of Leitrim (7S2NF). |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
| 13 | 25 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 15 | 29 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
| This McGovern sample misses the modal at a few places but is still Ui Neill in origin. |
| Although DNA research has found that the
Connachta, Cenel Conaill and Cenel Eoghain tribes are
indeed linked as the pedigrees state (if not exactly in
the way the pedigrees link them), there are further
unexplained mysteries to the Ui Neill story. In addition
to the above clans in the NW of Ireland, a large number
of Scottish clans also match the Ui Neill modal,
including a number of obviously non-Celtic surnames such
as Wilson or Robertson. The Ui Neill modal is also found
in families from England, such as Blanchard, Clarkson,
Moore, Knowles, Drake, Heathering. A limited number of
DNA samples also come from such diverse areas as France,
Germany, and Denmark. It has become perfectly obvious
that although these families share a common ancestor with
the Ui Neill of Ireland, few if any of them are actually
descended from the Ui Neill of Ireland. For the Scottish
surnames matching the modal, FTDNA places the total
percentage at about 6% of the Scottish samples. In
other words the Ui Neill in Ireland are simply a sub-set
of a larger tribal grouping, some of whom can be found in
various locations in Scotland, England, France and
Germany. The implications of this are still unknown at
the present. No one has yet ventured to assign a name to
that larger tribal grouping. If O Rahilly is correct
their origins could go back to Gaul or elsewhere in
continental Europe, perhaps even Spain. |
The McLaughlin Surname
| We have identified at least five or six
different septs in Ireland and Scotland that assumed the
surname McLaughlin. In addition to the MacLochlainns of
Tirconnell (Cenel Eoghain), there were two septs of the
name in Connacht, both Ui Briuin in origin. A fourth
McLaughlin sept were the O Maelsechlainns (O'Melaghlins)
of Meath (Southern Ui Neill) whose surname was improperly
anglicized to McLoughlin in the 18th century. There was
also a sept named Mac Giolla Sechlainn of Bregia, whose
surname (MacGillaghlin) was according to Woulfe
anglicized to MacGlaghlin, indistinguishable from
MacLochlainn. What all the above septs have in common is
a Ui Neill origin. So matching the Ui Neill modal will
not at this point tell you which of the above McLaughlin
septs were your ancestors. In time higher resolution DNA
tests (37 markers and above) may allow us to identify
definite groups of McLaughlins. The Maclachlans of Scotland are another sept linked by pedigree to the Ui Neill. One McLaughlin from Scotland matches the Ui Neill modal - but we do not have enough DNA examples from Scottish McLaughlins to determine if this is the norm for this Scottish clan. |
The O'Neills
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The Anradan Kindred
| Closely connected to the O'Neills in 14th century Irish pedigrees were the Anradan kindred, said to descend from Aodh Athlaman, King of Aileach, d. 1033. These families include the MacSweeneys, Maclachlans, Lamonts and MacEwens of Otter, all Argyle clans in Scotland. This topic has been covered in detail elsewhere on this website so there is no reason to repeat the information here. Suffice it to say if the O'Neills themselves were not Ui Neill then the Anradan kindred also should not be Ui Neill if the pedigrees are true. As yet we have little to go on in terms of DNA; few MacSweeneys, Maclachlans (McLaughlins) and Lamonts have been tested. |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389i |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389ii |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
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| Ui Neill Modal |
13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
| Lemmon | 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 14 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
| Lamont (R1a) | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 10 | 13 | 11 | 30 | 15 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 23 | 14 | 20 | 31 | 12 | 15 | 16 | 16 |
| Young-Lamont | 13 | 25 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 13 | 13 | 30 | 18 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 24 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 17 |
| Lamand | 13 | 24 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 30 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 17 | 17 |
| Lamont | 13 | 24 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 15 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 29 | 15 | 16 | 17 | |
| Lamont | 13 | 24 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 30 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 17 | 17 |
| McLaughlin | 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
| Sweeney | 14 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 30 | |||||||||||||
| Sweeney | 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | |||||||||||||
| Sweeney | 13 | 24 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 15 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 29 | ||||
| Sweeney | 13 | 23 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 14 | 13 | 30 |
Lemmon from Ireland (7VG5F & SMGF)
Lamont from Skye, Scotland ( FMJ8P) R1a haplogroup
Young-Lamont from Argylshire, Scotland (Lamont web site - 10429)
Lamand from Scotland (59VHQ)
Lamont from Lanark, Scotland (Lamont web site - 55859)
Lamont from Duntocker, Scotland (Lamont web site - 45044)
McLaughlin from Scotland TQ4VB)
Sweeney from Limerick (638X7)
Sweeney from Cork, Ireland (5TGQW)
Sweeney from Galway, Ireland (SMGF)
Sweeney - unknown (X2JBU)
| The only "Lamont" surname that
appears to be Ui Neill is Lemmon - and this surname may
not be Lamont at all - it's also a common English
surname. The first two Sweeneys listed from Limerick and Cork may be Ui Neill. The other two are not. For more O'Neill listings see: O'Neill Web Site |
The Southern Ui Neill
| The Southern Ui Neill remain another mystery in the Ui Neill DNA picture. To date no verifiable southern Ui Neill surnames have been identified that match the Ui Neill modal. Complicating identification is the fact that the leading family of the Southern Ui Neill were the O Maelsechlainns of Meath (O'Melaghlin) whose surname was misanglicized to MacLoughlin in the 18th century. Some of the McLaughlins/McLoughlins of unknown origin in Ireland could well be representatives of this well-known family who furnished Ireland with so many High Kings. |
The Airgialla (The Three Collas)
Cairpre Lifeachair
Fiachach Sraiptine
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Muirdach Tirech Eochaidh Dubhlein
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Eochaidh Mughmedhoin Colla Uais Colla da crioch Colla Meann
Nial 'of the Nine Hostages'
d. 405 AD. [The Three Collas]
Maguire, McMahon, O'Hanlon, O Carroll
McDonald in Scotland and other Airgialla
tribes.
| By Irish legend the Three Collas slew
their uncle, Fiachach Straiptine, the King of Ireland,
and were banished into Scotland. In time they were
pardoned by Muirdach Tirech, returned to Ireland and sent
to attack the Ulaidh, the dominant tribe in the north of
Ireland. As a reward for their military service, the
Three Collas were given territories in the north of
Ireland in what are now mainly the counties of Fermanagh,
Monaghan and Armagh. The tribes of the Airgialla were
long considered "royal" in Ireland because of
their descent from the line of the Kings of Ireland. Legend aside, few serious historians have believed the tale of the Three Collas was historical. O Rahilly (Early Irish History and Mythology) stated the tale was a fabrication, designed to provide mercenary tribes who assisted the Ui Neill in their conquest of the north of Ireland with a suitable pedigree. Based on DNA it now appears O Rahilly was right. The Maguires of Fermanagh, perhaps the best known Airgialla clan in descent from Colla da crioch, do not match the Ui Neill modal. Nor do the McMahons of Monaghan. In fact neither sept matches the other in DNA. |
| DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS 455 |
DYS 454 |
DYS 447 |
DYS 437 |
DYS 448 |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS 464d |
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| Ui Neill Modal |
13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 29 | 17 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 |
| Maguire | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 24 | 16 | 18 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 17 | 18 |
| McAuley | 13 | 25 | 14 | 12 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 16 | 18 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 17 | 18 |
| McManus | 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 16 | 18 | 30 | 15 | 15 | 17 | 18 |
| McMahon | 13 | 24 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 15 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 16 | 18 | 29 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 17 |
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