Greece/Turkey Travel Tips
Clifford (Our Fearless Leader) Ashby's Travel Tips (with
a few added notes, in italics, by Jerry Bangham)
Luggage and attire. You will
be schlepping your own suitcase, so one that is light,, small, and wheeled
is desirable. This will go in the baggage bin under the bus, so a large
purse or book bag should be kept with you to contain your immediate requirements.
I don't foresee any dress-up occasions, so ties, coats, heels, designer
dresses and the like can be left in your closet. You will need: a comfortable,
well broken-in pair of walking shoes, preferably with tread; slacks, sun
hat, one long-sleeved shirt, and a light windbreaker for possibly chilly
nights in the Turkish mountains. I prefer slacks on the sites, since some
of them can be brushy. Rain is unlikely, but with global climate changes,
who knows? I pack a plastic poncho which takes up almost no space. Need
I suggest a bathing suit?
Travel light. Since you will be responsible for
carting your belongings, take as little as possible, leaving some room in
your suitcase for purchases made along the way. Realize that if you bring
seven outfits, your companions will have seen your complete wardrobe at
the end of the first week-and of course everyone else will only see you
once or twice. In a few days, you'll be coming to at breakfast in the same
blue shorts and faded T-shirt that you were wearing yesterday.
Washing. In these semiarid regions, almost everything
dries overnight.
Cotton is a good choice; I'm trying some of Burlington
Mills' new "M.C.S. Sunblocker, the fabric that absorbs, moves moisture away
from the body, and dries quickly." You'll need to do your washing and bathing
in the afternoon or early evening; hot water comes from solar heaters, so
morning showers can be chilly.
Electricity. All power, except for occasional high-class
hotels, is 220 volt. You will need a plug adapter and converter to operate
your hair dryer or tooth brush. 220 volt appliances are available in some
travel stores. An adapter will let you plug your device into an
outlet. A few appliances will automatically realize that they are on 220,
rather than 110 and adjust. Others have a switch that you must set. Most
American appliances will just burn or melt and won't be much good afterwards.
I wouldn't mention this if I hadn't been on trips where this happened. Converters
will do the job (although one that works for a hair drier may not work for
a laptop). They can be bulky and heavy, though, so be sure you really need
the appliance.
Cameras and film. Have your camera checked before
you leave, and be sure to install fresh batteries. A wide angle lens is
almost necessary to get as much theatre as you want into a shot, since there
is seldom room to back up for a comprehensive view. Bring about twice the
film you think you will need, and pack it in lead sacks to protect against
airport x-rays. I will provide printed signs for each site; if you take
a picture of the sign before shooting, you will have no trouble identifying
one theatre from another.
Computers and recorders. I will probably bring a
laptop and attempt to use it for e-mail; I'll be glad to share it with you
if you don't care to bring one of your own. A little battery operated tape
recorder is wonderful for taking field notes; you can wait until Christmas
vacation to transcribe them.
Passports. If you need a renewal or are applying
for the first time, better get to it; I'll need your passport numbers for
forms that must be filled out. Renewals can be handled by mail, and forms
are available on the net: http://travel.state.gov/download_applications.html.
Food. Diet tends to be both interesting and delicious-if
you are a little adventurous. There is a temptation to overeat, especially
in Turkey where three meals are provided. Turista,
in my experience, usually comes from cream sauces kept too long in upscale
establishments; I've never had any problems with food from hole-in-the-wall
tavernas. Water has never been a problem in the past, but bottled water
is available if you prefer. Tips are included on the bill, but waiters in
the more touristy places may try for more. Ouzo and raki are the anise-flavored
aperitifs in Greece and Turkey; wines are very good, and so is the beer.
No one looks kindly at American drug habits; have you seen Midnight Express?
Medicines. Of course bring adequate supplies of
whatever you are taking, and probably an emergency stash also. If you are
contemplating digestive problems, Immodium works well. You may find that
hours of sitting on the bus leads to the opposite condition; bring Metamucil
or similar bulk producer. Of course you will bring sun screen, and a bottle
of Deet may be useful for mosquitoes around Turkish lakes. The few doctors
I have encountered seem quite competent; those who deal with tourists speak
English and are trained in Europe's finest schools. If you are subject to
problems that might arise, I would appreciate your sharing them with me-in
confidence, of course.
IRS. I'm sure all of you realize that this trip
qualifies as a business expense, except for the poor students. I'm reasonably
sure that nonprofessional wives are also deductible.
Drachmas. I'm assuming that the Athens airport,
like all other airports, has at least one money machine in the lobby. Bring
your VISA or other card, stick it in the slot (with PIN), and coin of the
realm will come spewing out. This is the most convenient way to exchange
money, and by far the cheapest. I've read that some American banks and
credit cards use more than four numbers in their PIN (all of mine use 4).
European ATMs will only deal with four numbers. It might be good to check
your PIN.
To conclude: That is all my words of wisdom for
the moment. You all are seasoned travelers who can certainly add further
and undoubtedly better advice than this. If you will send your comments
and suggestions to me, I'll be glad to put them on line (or send them
to me and I'll add them here). When everyone's travel plans are final,
I'll send a comprehensive list of who is flying when and on what. Some of
you will be on the same plane, or perhaps arriving in Athens at about the
same time as others.
Some additions (2/7/99): Bill Orth and Phil Hill
have been told by local health departments that they need shots for hepatitis
A and typhoid, plus tetanus-diphteria and polio boosters. I have checked
with both Greek and Turkish agents, and they were both more than a little
indignant that their countries would be so defamed. The head of the Turkish
organization is currently in New York where his wife is undergoing heart
surgery; neither he nor the Turkish embassy in Washington know anything
about an advisory from CDC. However, both he and the Turks in Turkey think
bottled water is a reasonable precaution. I have no advice to offer, other
than to find out all you can and use your best judgment. The shots are a
little expensive, but they would leave you on the safe side. A typhoid shot
some years ago before a trip to Peru left me with an evening of utter, nearly
suicidal, depression, but that quickly passed. A tetanus booster is probably
a good idea for anyone at any time. Please let me know if you learn anything
further.
Phil also learned of a visa requirement to Turkey. This
is news to me, but it seems to be true. Apparently, the U.S. has slapped
a $45 visa charge on tourists, so the Turkish government has done the same
for Americans. We can handle this when we land at Bodrum (no reason to go
to the trouble of sending your passports to Washington for stamping) and
I'm assured it will go very fast. I'll let you know what kind of currency
we will need for these visas (Update 2/23/99 - just add $50 to the trip
payment and it can be paid to the travel agency in advance).
Phil asked if bathrooms were adjoining, and I'm certain
they are; no trips up and down the hallway. (My memory is that we hit
one place with the bath down the hall on the last trip to Turkey). I
take a sarong for lounging; you may prefer a robe, but you won't need one
for out-of-room dashes. (A small flashlight might not be a bad idea, although
I've never experienced a power failure.) (Again, I remember a
power failure in Turkey. It was in the morning so light wasn't a problem,
but it knocked the water off).
Phil also regards travelers' cheques as a "rip-off even
if they are purchased for no fee, as the redemption and exchange rates are
exorbitant."
Write if you know something I don't.
Update (2/11/99) Robert Bridges (you will meet him)
from the American School of Classical Studies writes the following about
inoculations. (I'm excerpting)
"Everyone seems to be getting more and more antsy about
this. . . .We're now requiring all new members to have Measles #1, Measles
#2, Mumps, Rubella, Tetanus/Diphtheria, and recommending that they get
Meningitis, Polio Booster, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B#1, Hepatitis B#2,
Hepatitis B#3 as well as a complete physical exam. I've NEVER had ANY
of these shots (except polio and tetanus/diphtheria and that was YEARS
ago - and I realize I should get those updated). The cause for this panic
is two isolated cases of meningitis last summer which threw the assembled
powers-that-be into conniptions. . . . The typhoid/hepatitis recommendations
are probably a good idea if you're going to be spending any summer time
in Istanbul or Izmir and think that folk won't have the sense to use bottled
water (the rest of Turkey is fine, but those two places have to truck
their water in during the summer, and even my decades-long accumulation
of local intestinal flora still leaves me a tad wary during the heat of
the summer." ·
That's about as near the horse's mouth as I can get on
this situation. You realize, of course, that the American School people
are going into back country situations with very primitive conditions, while
you loll about in pampered luxury. Take your shots if you think it wise,
but there seems to be no great cause for worry.
Added notes (5/8/99) Women should throw in a head
scarf for the increasingly fundamentalist Turkey. Podiatric hint: I've found
that keeping toenails short is very helpful.
More travel tips
Pattie Lusk
1. Wear jeans that are soft and comfy, preferably old
and "broken in." Many of the sites can be brushy and rocky.
2. If you are getting new tennies or sneakers, start
breaking them in NOW! Preferably, wear old sturdy shoes.
3. Buy "moleskin" and/or "molefoam" (Dr. Scholl's) as
a blister deterrent. Get a small pair of scissors and carry both each
day.
4. Avoid nylon (or even nylon mixed) clothes; make you
sweat. Cotton underpants are highly desirable.
5. Pack light. Everything dries overnight except thick
socks.
6. Start saving your plastic grocery vegetable bags.
They are great for packing.
7. Bring a washcloth if you use one. No one else in the
world seems to use these except Brits and Americans. Maybe a spare towel.
8. Bring NO valuables. If you leave everything behind
in a hotel room (or God forbid your suitcase is looked into somewhere)
let it be of dimestore quality that you can let go and not cry over.
9. Bring hand lotion. Air is very dry and we are going
to hot dry rocky areas. If you run out of hair conditioner, a bit of hand
lotion is a splendid substitute.
10. Buy a bottle of ordinary sink dishwashing detergent
(like Ivory) to wash your clothes with. Lasts the whole trip. Or use a
ziplock bag for washing powder. I don't do this; it always breaks. Suit
yourself.
11. Start collecting toilet paper rolls that are close
to the end, or carry Kleenex from a box in a plastic bag. Be warned; you
will need to carry this especially for Delos, in order to duck behind
a ruin somewhere to take care of your needs. Carry it every day. Accept
the challenge.
12. Be sure to get Lomotil or its equivalent and any
antacid or medication you need to last the distance. Wash your hands before
eating; easiest way to keep a lot of problems at bay.
13. Sun block is absolutely essential. No one gets off
the bus without applying it. Take a spare pair of reading glasses, just
in case.
14. Develop the habit of showering as soon as you get
to your room at the end of the day. Lots of places we will be staying
have solar heating for the water tank; this means it is lukewarm at 11
p.m. and stone cold at 7 a.m. Shaving is for you to work out. All you
men can go through the early Don Johnson phase to a full beard.
15. Wear a hat. This is a must. Get one that has a brim
and folds into your suitcase.
16. Pack everything you plan to take ahead of time and
then test it out carrying it for weight. Keep it small. Keep it light.
No bell hop will be available, only you. ONE SUITCASE.
Peter Coulson
One thing that several doctors have recommended and I
have found very helpful is to take four Pepto-Bismol tablets during the
course of each day, continuing for several days after one returns home.
Of course, this will not prevent real dysentery, but it is a great help
in preventing minor stomach upset from food and drink that one is not
used to. As you may know, it does darken one's tongue, but I feel that
is a small price to pay. I did this in China and elsewhere, places where
I had some very strange (to me) food, and had no problems. Naturally,
I was also careful about the water and all that.
(4/5/99) Probably most of us are already familiar with
this advice, but for what it is worth, I quote part of a recent advice
column in the Austin newspaper: "Sandy McDonough of Austin Diagnostic
Center's Travel Clinic says a little common sense goes a long way: Get
adequate rest before traveling, reduce smoking and avoid alcohol and caffeine,
carry healthy snacks and avoid heavy meals, increase fluid intake (eight
ounces per hour during flight), exercise (in-seat flexes, walking around),
sleep as much as possible on the plane (request pillow and blankets and
bring ear plugs and eye cover), shower or wash hands and face at stops."
"So skip the free champagne, grab some shut-eye and
drink water like a fish. McDonough adds sleeping pills are not recommended,
as they interrupt normal sleep patterns. Upon arrival, do not immediately
sleep. Get some sunshine if possible."
Personally, I find it hard to resist the food and a little
wine on international flights, but I'll try to "drink water like a fish"
and get what sleep I can. Peter
Several doctors have recommended taking four Pepto-Bismol
tablets during the course of each day, continuing for several days after
one returns from the trip. Of course, this will not prevent real dysentery,
but I have found it to be a great help in preventing minor stomach upset
from strange food and drink. As you may know, it does temporarily darken
the tongue, but I feel that is a minor price to pay. I had plenty of strange
(to me) food in China in 1984, and elsewhere, with no bad effects. I do
rely on bottled water in most countries except the British Isles and Germany
(where I was stationed in the mid-fifties). So, for what it is worth.
Patrick Donnelly (updated 5/23/99)
I travel very lightly. Have hoards of tips if folks want
them. I am not as hip to the history as ya'll, but I know from wandeltrekking.
Trekking in Europe. You need three bags. Large, small,
and tiny.
The Large bag contains everything you need for your trip,
which is considerably less than you imagine.
The Small bag is for everything will you need for a day.
Which will vary according to circumstance.
The Tiny bag is your passport, emergency cash and numbers;
you should be able to tuck the tiny bag deeply amongst your person. And
sleep comfortably. Security wallets come in all shapes and sizes, get
one and get used to wearing it.
Without your passport you are no one. For at least 24
hours. Usually longer if you lost your money too.
Europe has few violent robbers, but we do have a highly
skilled population of pickpockets and cutpurses. Gypsies are never cute
or safe to be near. The market for passports is very good, an American
Passport is worth about $10,000 (ten thousand dollars) to somebody getting
out of eastern Europe or the middle east.
Large bag. How to pack for a week.
Light, small and recyclable.
Forget anything electric. Adaptors-Smadaptors. The stuff
is heavy, and takes up space.
Small sealable ¾ full bottles of any liquids. Never full
bottles, never more than a enough for a few days or a week.
Two cameras. One for good pictures, one that will take
a fast picture of anything.
Film, bags, accessories. Get a deep storage film bag,
a real one.
Toiletry bags. Be as self contained as possible. Tiny
everything if you need it at all. Small and hangable. It is not unreasonable
to chop off part of the handle of your toothbrush to save weight and space.
One of the viscose camp towels from Bean's or Boundary Waters catalogs
will work for everything but lying on at the beach.
Dr. Bronner's soap is the best. And the label is the
most entertaining last ditch, late night reading of any soap on the market.
You can wash anything in Dr. Bronner's soaps.
Reading material is heavy, but make sure you do not run
out. Books in English cost double or more what they cost in the USA. A
good book is worth a couple bottles of good wine.
I personally recommend everyone have a Swiss army knife
(with a scissors and corkscrew); a mini-mag flashlight; a compass (with
some vague idea of why a reference to North is handy); a cup (for everything
from brushing your teeth to the nightly snort of Ouzo): and some means
of transporting water. Bottle water (liter size) is everywhere, use it
every time and give up on the notion of ice. Always bottled water in southern
Europe or the Med.
Wine is often cheaper than water, but you don't want
to brush your teeth with it.
Clothing should be as light, functional and recyclable
as possible. Cotton washes and dries fast. Comfortable, layerable, durable.
Greece is laid back, you do not need watches. It is either light or dark.
Get used to the sight of skinny cats.
You need one warm, dry, outfit, which should be a layering
of just about everything you have. Peel down from there into a couple
wardrobes. Shorts are not permitted in many churches, and looked upon
unfavorably in all.
You need a hat. Americans all wear baseball caps. Buying
a good hat locally is okay, but you don't want to wear you Greek hat in
Turkey.
You will want good broken-in shoes, and need them. Then
you will be embarrassed by the Germans who will come walking by in sandals
and loafers. Pay no attention, the Germans are big league walkers and
tourists. Don't let them get to you, and don't think you can keep up.
Never drink with Germans if you have anything to do for the next couple
days. Your shoes should be big, thick, vibram-like soles on anything that
does not give you blisters. Good socks and shoes are a must. Shoes you
can trust.
If the early itinerary has time, Buy Birkenstocks here.
Do not bring sandals unless you already have Birkenstocks.
The money and the Bank cards you already know about.
Using your regular ATM bank card is THE BEST way to get money from there
to here. Check the back of your ATM cards for words like: Cirrus, Interlink,
Plus....from the ATM here, right out of your checking account there, is
the best/cheapest way to obtain local cash.
Know your PIN Number, not a password. No letters-on-the-numbers
on phones and bank machines! And it is withdrawal from Checking only,
no other transactions.
Visa and MC are widely accepted. AMEX is the best.
Travelers Checks are a handy back up. Carry some.
Cash is cash. American dollars are very handy. Large
bills you must exchange, but a stack one $1 bills make excellent informal
grease. You tip a lot here. Not very much at any one time, but a little.
Restaurant bills always include the tip, no matter what the waiter says.
And few Europeans tip more than a dollar for anything. The bathroom (WC)
is usually fifty American cents- in local currency..
Pack three bags.
Bag 1. Is your life. Without bag #1 you are an Unperson.
It should contain your passport, plane ticket, emergency numbers and a
little cash. Bag#1 should become part of your close person.
Bag 2. The day bag. Gets packed and repacked for the
demands of the day. This should become an appendage. Everything you need
for 1 day, or 1 flight, you get the picture. This should be a comfortable,
easy-on, easy-off, bag. Underseat, Over Shoulder, A respectable pillow.
Bag 3. The supply wagon. Should Roll, and YOU should
be able to "sling" it into a car trunk or luggage cart, or wrestle it
away from the guy who is trying to put it in his car trunk. Pack lightly,
with versatile and recyclable clothes. This bag should be lockable. All
of it.
Packing procedure: (strictly optional) Pack the bags.
Rest. Unpack them and take some stuff out. Pack. Rest. Carry/Roll the
bags around the house. (Greece has stairs) Unpack bags and lighten load.
Recap, load to roll properly. Set bags aside for a couple days. Try to
remember all the stuff you forgot to pack in the bags, assemble it, open
bags and put that stuff inside. Carry bags around house. Practice rolling
bag, recap to roll properly. Practice rolling Bag#3 with bag #2 stacked
on top. Unpack bags, lighten load.
Final pack, strap down, pack bag#2 for the flight (BRING
BOOK), Pack Bag#1. Become One with Bag#1. And remember to always count
to three. Large Bag for the trip. Wheels, handles, a backpack. Light as
you can.
Small bag for the day. Daily needs, rolling stock and
essentials.
Tiny bag for always. It contains 10,000 dollars, and
is the only identity you have. A Drivers License proves you can drive,
not who you are.
I sure am looking forward to our excursion. Greece is
only about four hours from here (The Netherlands) by air, but you
guys will be jet-lagged wrecks when we see each other for the first time.
Nana-nana-boo-boo.
Expect no mercy.
More tips (2/10/99)
Hmmm. Nice and upbeat travel tips. Half the clothes and
twice the money.
Don't bring a full-full bag. You need room for loot.
If you bring too much, you have to dump it to make room for the stuff
you get here.
Don't wear sunglasses in the mornings for the first few
days (for jetlag). Bring one crate of Wash-and-Drys. Sell them to people
as you travel together. Give them away when people start to smell bad.
Get used to the sight of skinny cats. No, you may not
have one on the bus. Practice sightseeing. Go someplace.
Walk around for a couple hours, carrying your day bag.
Full. Do not mind the weather.
You cannot drink enough water. The air on the plane will
be dry-dry-dry, for hours. It will dehydrate you as quickly as desert
air. Much travelers malaise is from lack of water, not bad water. Drink
before, during, and after the flight.
Ask your doctor for drugs (according to your own guidelines).
Doctors have lots of neat little relaxers. A very long plane ride is an
extremely good reason to take one. Most doctors have a favorite. Over-the-counter
stuff is for fluffy bunnies. Tell the doctor that you are flying, and
usually they know just what you need.
The flights are often crowded, and unless you pay through
the nose: tightly packed. You do not want to be awake. When you request
seats from the airline: get them near the galley, not the restrooms. Trust
me. Be really nice to the airline person who handles this for you.
Ask to sit on the left side window on the way to Europe,
and the right side on the to the USA. The view is better, especially when
you can see Greenland and Iceland. If you can get "bulkhead" or "emergency
door" seats you get extra leg room, but you need extra blankets for your
feet next the door. It gets really cold.
Secret possible tip: I always make a joke about asking
for a plane or compartment with no children. The ticket agents laugh,
and tell you there is No Way. I think they must say that. However, in
many big planes, there is often a compartment that is mysteriously free
of, or low on, children. In most KLM 747's it is often Rows 12-19, in
coach. It is a small compartment next to the forward galley. I think they
keep the kids away from the Business Class, up front.
Allow me to explain. I really do not like children, and
was never a child myself. Having the middle seat in a 5-wide row, in tourist
class, with "under-7's" on both sides, will do it for anyone. You cannot
blame the kids, but a deep seething hatred for the parents can be unavoidable.
This is another situation where drugs from the doctor
can be a lifesaver.
Have a good flight!
(Clifford's comment) I would differ with him about seat
choice. Sylvia and I always get aisle seats across from each other; gives
more freedom to move around, and easier access to the bathroom. But you've
got to watch out for the food cart. Patrick avers that he bears permanent
scars from an encounter with a food cart on Aereo Mexicana.
Bill Orth
My travel doctor strongly endorsed Peter's Pepto remedy
against dysentery; she said there are studies that indicate it reduces
the chances you'll get TD by 65%. She also recommended carrying some powdered
Gatorade in case you do get dysentery. It's important that you rehydrate
yourself; you mix the Gatorade with bottled water and it resupplies the
lost electrolytes, or whatever.
According to Clifford, no one on previous trips have
had any trouble with dysentery. I've been all over the world and spent
lots of time in Mexico without ever having a bad case (knock heavily on
wood). I guess you can get dysentery anywhere (a travel agent told me
the only time she got it was in Switzerland, of all countries) but I wouldn't
spend a lot of time worrying. I do plan to stick in some Lomotil, just
to be safe. Note my tip later on about waterless hand cleaner.
Some odds and ends
Most showers in Greece and Turkey have a bit of string
descending from a porcelain fixture in the ceiling. It took me quite a
while to figure out the purpose of this cord. At first I just thought
it was a nonfunctioning light switch, but since there were rarely light
fixtures nearby, I finally ruled this out.
It is an alarm, in case you slip and fall. A really practical
idea. A couple of problems, however. First, the string usually gets shortened,
so you have to be standing up in order to pull it, which kind of defeats
the whole purpose of the alarm.
Also, while I was trying to future our what the cord
did, I managed to pull cords in several hotels. Nothing happened. Finally,
one day, the phone rang after I'd pulled the cord. While the person on
the phone didn't speak English, I somehow managed to connect the cord
with the ringing phone and quit experimenting.
Incidentally, I've since seen identical fixtures in English
bathrooms, but there, they do serve as light switches.
The
Mining Company Greek tourism site has just published a list of good
packing tips.
They point out one thing that I didn't realize, airlines
flying inside of Greece have stricter baggage limits than international
carriers and enjoy sticking on heavy fees for excess baggage.
A call to Olympic Air gives the following information:
Baggage limit, 15 kilos or 33 pounds; carryon 18 pounds. Whether these
are enforced or whether the information is terribly accurate, I can't
say. I'd call Olympic and see if you get the same answer. We'll be flying
Olympic to Santorini, and from Iraklio to Rhodos.
Another tip, bring some waterless hand cleaner. It evidently
can really cut the chances of picking up intestinal bugs. REI has it in
nice pocket-size bottles, but I've seen it in groceries and drug stores.
There is a site Do's
and Taboos for Greece. Nothing of vital importance, but keep in mind
that a head nod means "no" and a head tilt means "yes."
Also, "no" in Greek sounds rather like "OK." The official
mantra for the last trip was "Ohi problima" which the bus driver
assured us meant "no problem."
Money: Consumer Reports suggests that you will
get the best break on exchange rates by using credit cards. Most credit
card companies have raised their rates recently. You should check to see
which company gives you the best deal.
My preference for obtaining money abroad is the American
Express cash machine. Unfortunately, we will only be seeing one on our
entire trip. It is located across from Customs in the Athens Airport.
Fortunately, there are banks that take
the AmEx card, the Credit Bank in Greece and AkMatic ATMs in Turkey. The
logos are shown below.

I assume that I'll probably have to use my MasterCard
as well. There is a Website where you can go to
see where MasterCards and Visa will be accepted in Greece
(about 250 places just in Athens) and Turkey.
Look for the Cirrus Network logo, which should be on your credit card..
The current rate of exchange for the Drachma is 300
per dollar. One million Turkish Lira are worth about $2.50
Communications: Here is information on some Internet
cafes - this is just off the web, I have no idea how good any are, but
I intend to check out some on the trip. For a more complete list, check
the Greece
for Visitors list of sites and The
Internet Cafes of Greece page (which may not be very up to date).
Athens - Carousel
Cyber Cafe (I never was able to find this - when I get a chance,
I'll post one I did find).
Rhodos - RockStyle
internet cafe
Click here for a list of Cyber
Cafes in Turkey (most sites are in Turkish and there quite a few
dead links)
Kusadasi - Red
and White Steak House
Istanbul - Yagmir
Cyber Cafe (has a site in English - they are in the same district
as our hotel)
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Books
The Blue Guide
Clifford has sent out a recommendation of the Blue Guide
series. I remember that it was on Clifford's 1987 trip that I first heard
of the series. I couldn't find them for that trip, but I have since amassed
a whole shelf full.
The Blue Guides are published in England by A&C Black
and distributed in the USA by WW Norton. I haven't tried it, but it is possible
to order from the Norton Website.
I have the following volumes:
- Blue Guide - Greece Robin
Barber Sixth edition
1995 ISBN 0-7136-3250 X
- Blue Guide - Rhodes and the Dodecanese Robin
Barber First Edition
1997 ISBN 0-7136-4093-6
- Blue Guide - Istanbul John
Freely Fourth Edition
June 1997 ISBN 0-7136-4514-8
- Blue Guide - Athens and environs Robin
Barber Third Edition 1992 ISBN 0-393-30838-3
Also: (The Athens and Turkey guides appear to be out
of print - you can order the Crete guide from Norton or get it a lot cheaper
at one of the online bookstores)
- Blue Guide - Crete
- Blue Guide - Turkey
Eyewitness Travel Guides
While the Blue Guide series has good maps, museum plans
and a limited assortment of black & white photos, its greatest value
is its text. The Dorling Kindersley Eyewitness Travel Guides are
just the opposite, dazzling visual presentations with 3D pictorial maps
and street guides and hundreds of color photos. The books are not only expensive
but really heavy (it must be the slick paper for the photos). Still, they
are impressive.
D K Publishing has a Website
but it is in England. The books are fairly easy to find online or in local
bookshops. I notice that they also have guides to Classical Greece and Classical
Rome, but I haven't seen these volumes. They may be written for children.
The volumes relevant to our trip are:
- Greece - Athens and the Mainland First
American Edition 1997 ISBN 0-7894-1452-X
- The Greek Islands First
American Edition 1997 ISBN 0-7894-1453-8
- Istanbul First American
Edition 1998 ISBN-0-7894-2751-6
Of course, there are lots of other fine books. If there
are other suggestions let me know.
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The Mining Company has a good set of Athens
links and a page of Practical
Information that includes information on Bus
Services. The bus page points out that that there are direct busses
from the Airport to Syntagma
Square (Plateia Sindadgmatos on the map). However, the bus stops a very
long way from the hotel - a most unpleasant walk!. The bus should cost about
$2.00, a cab should cost you ten dollars (in Greek drachmas).
All streetcars terminate here, so, if you are lost,
just jump on a streetcar and you will either end up here or at the other
end of the line (in which case you catch the next car going in the opposite
direction).
Our Hotel was the Achilleas Hotel, 21 Lekka Street.
I've highlighted the street (Leka St. on the map) in blue. It is to the
north west of the square.

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Istanbul
info.
We stayed
at the Madison Hotel in the Beyoglu District near Taksim Square (Receppasa
Cad. No: 23, 80090 Taksim, Istanbul). The street is highlighted (Recep Pasa)
on the map on the left below. The airport bus is a fairly short walk from
the hotel (in front of Pizza Hut).
The
map on the right shows where Taksim Square (the red dot) is. It is north
of the Golden Horn in the international section of the city.


Our travel arrangements will be handled
by VIP Tourism. They have
a Website with pictures
of distinguished clients like Mick Jagger and Michael Jackson. They also
have some travel tips and other information.
Istanbul Bookstores: There are
two areas to look at. One is the bookseller's market at Beyazit; this is
mind-bogglingly chaotic, particularly the second-hand shops, and mainly
good for Turkish-language material. The other is in the Pera/Beyoglu area
from the Tunel to Taksim Square; there are a few places here that sell foreign-language
books, and one small shop in a square near the Tunel has the only secondhand
shop in town that sells English and French language stuff (the square it's
in will make any cat lover go all wobbly, there are dozens of lovely fluffy
moggies outside). There are also bookshops attached to publishers all over
the city (though predominantly in Sultanahmet as that's where the publishers
themselves congregate). But for general tourist guides and informative material
about Turkey in any language you probably can't beat the shop beside the
Blue Mosque.
(This
tip from http://www.geocities.com/Athens/4824/bookshop.htm)
Some assorted links of interest
Links
to sites dealing with Roman Turkey
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