LOVING THE PLANET
AND EACH OTHER
An Interview with Ken Carey
by Randy
Peyser
Ken Carey is the author of "The Starseed Transmission," "Vision, Return
of the Bird Tribes," and "Flatrock Journal." This month his latest book,
"The Third Millenium," will be released.
Randy Peyser: Where do you get your information when you
write your books? Is it all channeled to you?
Ken Carey: Well, I don't channel in the sense that many
do. It's not a process of my ego stepping aside, and some foreign entity
taking over and speaking through me. I'm a full participant in the process,
both in terms of my spirit and my ego.
I relax into a larger experience of being. It's a matter of taking that
sense of self that we call the ego and not denying or rejecting it, but
relaxing it...relaxing its interpretations of the world around us,
relaxing its definitions, relaxing its defenses.
When I relax into this larger experience of being, I find that my heart
increasingly opens in love. I have a saying that "I can understand anything
that I can love."
I speak about this in my newest book, The Third Millenium.
For me the process of opening up to a larger field of awareness is a process
of beginning to love everything immediately around me. I begin with my
body, my clothes, the chair I'm sitting on if I'm indoors, or the rock
I'm sitting on if I'm outside, or the tree I may be leaning against.
The more I'm able to love, the more I realize that all of this is part
of me. We're all cells in the same whole. We're all parts of the same beautiful
planetary organism.
There does come a point sometimes, not always, when my love just opens
up like this. I feel this awareness and especially the creative force of
the life of this earth. I feel a love that is so indescribable I can't
help but try to put it into words now and again.
RP: A lot of times before opening to love, there's fear.
KC: There's fear because opening to love can be a scary process.
There is no dishonesty in love. If you think of the life force in your
body as a current of love, it's like a brilliant light. When that light
shines, the shadows become darker and more distinct.
Opening to love helps us to see where we have not been honest to ourselves,
or games we might be playing. People sometimes are scared of that, but
it's nothing to be afraid of.
I like to see things that I may be doing that inhibit the flow of creativity
in my life, so I welcome the process. There's times I see things I'd rather
not see, but I'm glad I do because it indicates an area where I need to
change to become a more loving person.
RP: How do you feel we're doing as a planet in terms of opening?
KC: We're right on schedule and I think we're doing amazingly
well. When I wrote The Starseed Transmission in 1978, the
world was such a tremendously different place. The changes since then have
been phenomenal. The Starseed Transmission spoke about major global,
political and economic changes taking place between the years 1987 and
1989 and it was between those years that the Berlin Wall came down and
Eastern Europe was freed, apartheid ended in South Africa, and the Soviet
Union collapsed. So wonderful things have been happening.
I know there are still problems. The break up of the old polarized communist
versus free world has created a whole new set of problems, but they're
becoming more manageable. They're becoming problems on a scale that we
can creatively address and solve.
The tendency of the media is to focus on the negative simply because
the negative results in reportable events alot more than the positive does.
But despite the media, there's no doubt in my mind, just on the basis of
the people I meet and my own experience, that the world is infinitely more
conscious now than it was a decade or two ago. And that process is only
going to continue. In fact, I believe it is accelerating more rapidly than
before.
RP: That sounds very positive. You sound very hopeful.
KC: You have to be. It's not that I don't have my own doubts from time
to time. I certainly do. But I know deep down that we've embarked on a
wonderful adventure. And while no one can predict all the twists and turns
that the road before us may take, I know the destination that it's leading
to. I've seen it. I've lived it, and it's here now for those who are willing
to release the past programming, the fear, the judgment, and the prejudice
that gets in the way of seeing it.
RP: Can you talk a little about what that destination looks like to
you?
KC: I see it simply as a state in which our human family exists
without shooting ourselves in the foot every five minutes, and without
exceeding our own purposes and engaging in so much counter-productive activity.
Humans have been abusive to one another, to the planet and to other
species. The future that I write about in The Third Millenium is
the time when we will realize that it is not in our best interest to solve
a disagreement through armed conflict when we could negotiate instead.
We'll begin to realize that much of our historical behavior is simply no
longer viable and obviously never was useful.
This is already being realized increasingly. I think the creativity
that we'll be able to express as a species will be so beautiful. I see
the potential. And it's not just potential; it is being manifested in many
places. There are groups that are working to feed the hungry in inner cities.
People all over are showing that there is a way that we can exist on this
planet, in love with one another and the earth and other creatures. I just
see this spreading and becoming increasingly the norm.
RP. What do you think about all the predictions about earth changes?
KC: There have always been earth changes. I think there will be
more than there have been in the past. Whether they're cataclysmic depends
a lot on us. I don't think they necessarily have to be harmful.
Last year or the year before, in Missouri, we had big floods. My heart
went out to all those farmers who got flooded out along the Mississippi
River. But at the same time I thought, it flooded this way in the twenties,
it flooded this way in the fifties, and they've built their homes on a
flood plain. If it floods occasionally, they've got to expect that.
There's not enough respect for nature. Alot of what we see as cataclysmic
is simply the earth telling us, "Look, you've got to honor me more. You've
got to honor the nature of this flood plain." This is reality and
this is part of what the earth needs, North America needs, to cleanse herself.
We can't stop it because it happens in good, good fertile ground.
If you want to grow crops down here, grow them down here, but build
your house up on the hill. It's the same with the hurricane in Dade County,
Florida. It was heart-breaking to see what those people experienced. But
that land was never meant to be packed with so many dwellings.
There's a certain sense of the earth and what it's for that I see coming
into our awareness. The government's talking about no longer continuing
federally subsidized flood insurance for places that flood regularly. This
is a good sign. It shows that we're beginning to pay more attention
to the landscape so that ultimately our buildings can be better. Some architects
are already creating structures that are designed to be a part of the earth,
to respect a local watershed, the nature of the soil, the rainfall and
the climactic conditions.
It's this sort of increasing respect for the earth that many of these
natural disasters are guiding us towards and leading us to. I think it's
the earth's way of saying, "Hey, have you forgotten somebody here?"
RP: Any last thoughts you'd like to share?
KC: Yes. I'd like to emphasize that the way we look at things,
our favorite view points, our favorite concepts, the images that we use
to describe reality to ourselves, our religions, our belief systems, and
our politics are of no more eternal significance than the color of the
clothes we wear from day to day.
If these things help us become more loving, conscious people, if they
help us become more aware of the miraculous nature of the planetary life
that surrounds us, and if they help us to be more creative, then they're
good. I don't care what continent they come from, what cultures they're
steeped in or what beliefs they involve. If they help us do those
things, they're positive.
This helps me to remember what I tend to forget sometimes -— it helps
me remember what a miraculous universe I live in.
There will be those who can relate to The Third Millennium
and those who can't, but I think the most important thing is that we respect
the paths that our sisters and brothers are on, whatever form they take,
because ultimately it is our love for one another and our union that is
going to bring about the greatest and most beneficial planetary changes.
We'll never agree on the level of the mind. We're never going to agree
on a belief system or a conceptual framework. But we can already agree
in our hearts, simply because we are humans, and we are living together
in an incredible world on the brink of a new and wondrous era.
RP: We're all in this together.
KC: That's right. There's no doubt about it.
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