SWAMI BEYONDANANDA:
Who is the Man Behind the Turban?
An Interview with
Randy Peyser
Swami Beyondananda (a.k.a. Steve Bhaerman) has proven himself
to be the unequivocal master of 'pun'tification for the New Age.
Many of you have been following his column for quite some time. Some
of the Swami's 'pun'coctions are just plain 'punny' while others are pure
'pun'ishment! Recently, I contacted His Hilarious Whollyness—the
Pun'tiff—for an interview by phone.
Randy Peyser: Hi Swami! I'm putting you on the speakerphone
so I can tape this conversation. I think I may need you to speak
up a little bit.
Swami Beyondananda: I'm never afraid to speak up.
RP: I've noticed. In fact, that was one of my questions.
Have you ever gotten in trouble with any of your puns?
SB: I think I've learned over the years to read an audience.
I'm not generally trying to insult people. I have four planets in
Scorpio, so if I want to insult people I can, but I don't like it when
I unintentionally insult people. It's very rare that people ever
complain about what I do. But it has happened.
I once did a routine in San Jose on humanitarianism and on eating animals.
I was teaching cows to want to be eaten at a little place called the 'hashram'
and I was putting the cows into a state called 'cattlepsy' and there was
a spiritual master named Baba'cue. Some animal rights people come
up to me afterward and said that they were offended.
RP: How do the puns come to you?
SB: I just hear things differently. Any ability that you
have that you reinforce by practicing, you get better at. For many
years I enjoyed doing humor, but I didn't reinforce it and I didn't write
things down. Then one year that changed.
I had just been laid off from a teaching job at Wayne State University
in Detroit. So I took a job taking down trees for the city of Ann Arbor,
Michigan. While I was there, a magical thing happened. One
of my co-workers—who was a brilliant psychologist disguised as a truck
driver—suggested that we start a publication for the people that we worked
with. We used humor to tell the truth and to blow everybody's cover.
It was fantastic and I really got to appreciate the power that humor has.
In order to do this paper, I had to write down all my ideas. So
if I woke up in the middle of the night with an idea or if I was driving
to work and an idea came, I would just scribble something on my pad.
It was a very valuable lesson to retrieve the natural ideas that were
flowing through my head. And the more I retrieved them the more the
ideas came.
RP: How did you become the Swami?
SB: After doing this tree-working paper for a few years, I started
a paper in 1980 called Pathways. My partner in this venture also
had a great appreciation of humor. We wanted Pathways to be a newspaper
where a lot of alternative points of view got presented concerning health
and community and spiritual pursuits and personal growth.
People tend to take those areas really seriously so we decided that
we had to have humor. So as a regular feature in Pathways, every
month on the last page we had Swami Beyondananda, and that's how the Swami
was born.
In the two years that we published Pathways, we found that even if people
weren't interested in all the other stuff, they wanted to read 'the Swami'.
We did things like 'Teach Your Dog to Heal,' 'Everything You Always Wanted
to Know About Sects,' 'Tantrum Yoga' and a number of other things like
that. We found that humor was a wonderful way to bring new ideas
to people.
RP: I know that the Swami not only writes, but that the Swami
performs live...
SB: Right. By 1984, I was working as a free-lance writer,
writing books for other people and working with ad agencies doing humorous
commercials. I was doing impressions (I don't do them anymore because
I'm a post-impressionist), but at the time, I was doing impressions and
I took a workshop. I made a declaration at this workshop that I was
going to pursue humor as a full-time career.
Somebody invited me to a personal growth workshop on humor and the Swami
made his debut. As often happens when you're doing the right thing,
there was a period of grace where I just got so much positive feedback
that I knew this was my next direction.
R. You have a partner don't you?
SB: Yes, my wife, Trudy Light. We're going through a change
right now where neither of us is performing very much any more. Trudy
is segueing out of dancing. Now she has a business selling beaded
Egyptian scarves—she sells them mail order and female order.
And I'm picking performances selectively and only doing the ones I really
want to do. It feels like I'm moving forward into a more mainstream audience.
I'm also focusing on other kinds of writing, as well as 'the Swami'.
RP: What do you aspire to do next?
SB: Well I was aspiring a lot earlier—I was doing heavy work here...
Actually, I have a Swami book coming out.
RP: Oh, a new one?
SB: Yes. It's tentatively entitled, Don't Get Even, Get Odd
— Laugherisms from Swami Beyondananda. These are just little
pithy things which I hope don't pith anybody off. They're extracted
from the work that I've generated over the last eight years.
I think that this is the kind of book that will go mainstream.
I do a lot of radio, and radio is a very mainstream venue. I do 'Morning
Drive Time Rock and Roll' on talk radio and people love getting the Swami.
Many people have told me that I need to be seen by a larger audience.
I expect that in the next year or so I will begin to do more television
and be seen and connected with even more people.
RP: That's exciting.
SB: It is. And I've also developed a new form of expression.
You've heard of Haiku right? Well, I'm doing 'Low-ku'. Low-ku
is essentially political limericks. I've produced a number of limericks
based on things that have happened recently.
For example, when Dick Army, the congressman from Texas, talked about
Barney Frank, the gay congressman from Massachusetts, and said, "I don't
want Barney Fag... Frank." He corrected himself right away and claimed
it was a slip of the tongue and that it was very easy to want to say 'frank'
and say 'fag' instead... so I wrote this Low-ku.
It's called 'Low-ku to a Retreating Dick Army'
'Said Gingrich's ranking right flanker,
I uttered that word without rancor.
I mean what's the big stank?
I meant to say Frank.
Can I help it if Frank came out franker?'
RP: Very, very good. (laughter)
SB: Yeah. I'm very interested in politics. My major
back at Brooklyn College was political science. I've taught history
at the college level and I've always had an interest in politics.
One of the things I've noticed in being the Swami for the past eight
years is that there is a gulf between people in this country who are
spiritually skeptical, secular and politically aware, and the people who
are interested in personal growth and spirituality, but have a very weak
political consciousness.
Part of what I'm interested in doing is bringing these groups together
to have a conversation. I'm not sure what form this is going to take,
but the alternative is what's in charge now. And what's in charge
now ain't working.
In my travels around the country, I find there are a lot of very mainstream
people who are dissatisfied with both political parties. I think
that anything that happens has to come from the center—what I call the
'radical center.' I'm very interested in helping this radical center.
I call it radical just because we're so politically dysfunctional in this
society that honesty is radical.
RP: Well put.
SB: A politician cannot tell the truth. They can't.
They'll lose. For example what if Clarence Thomas said, "I must confess
that this was a time when I was very emotionally overwrought. I did
come on to these women. I was inappropriate and I see that that's
a mistake and it's something I'm never going to do again. I've learned
something. I deeply apologize for any hurt that it might have caused."
If we were a mature political society we would say, "Great. Thank
you. We have no problem with you being a Supreme Court Justice because
wisdom is learned through mistakes."
But no one is ever willing to admit that they made a mistake.
If Clarence Thomas had said that, he'd be a janitor. So he had to
lie. Do you know what it does to people to have to lie in order to
survive?
No matter what their political perspective, there are a lot of people
in our society who are beginning to realize that (1) we must be honest;
we must be willing to tolerate honest mistakes and forgive, and (2) there
is wisdom in every point of view.
We don't cultivate wisdom in our leaders. A wise leader will be
able to draw on a piece of wisdom that the fundamentalists have, and a
piece of wisdom that the Native Americans have, and a piece of wisdom that
the psychologists have, and synthesize that into something that makes sense
to most people. But we don't have that yet.
That's really where the action is politically. I'm not quite sure
what role I'll play in that, but I'm excited about it. It's something
that turns me on. There seems to be a lot of synchronicity in my
life in this area.
RP: Keep us posted on how this is evolving.
SB: Well, what's happening is what I call a conversation, and
the conversation is among people who are interested in this idea.
Some of the people I'm in contact with are Marilyn Ferguson, author of
The
Aquarian Conspiracy, and Michael and Justine Thoms from New Dimensions
Radio, a fellow named Brad Lanton who wrote a very powerful book called
Radical
Honesty, and Mary Ruwar, who wrote a book which combines libertarianism
and spiritual principles. And I'll be on e-mail soon.
Everybody has a piece of wisdom and this is really a place to move that
wisdom around, churn it up and come up with something that will impact
the body politic.
RP: Well that sounds exciting. Does the Swami have any predictions
for the new year?
SB: Ah! Predictions! Well of course, the Swami doesn't
like making predictions 'cause he doesn't want to ruin his non-prophet
status. If perhaps you give me some areas, he might venture a guess.
RP: Let's see...Are there going to be any earth changes coming?
SB: Absolutely, there'll be some changes. Swami says, "It's
gonna grow warmer and the warming will peak sometime around July or August,
and then it's going to get cooler again."
RP: Sounds like time for summer vacation.
SB: Yeah, so look for it to get warmer right around that time.
And as far as anyone out there in California is concerned about earthquakes,
Swami says, "If you find a fault, don't dwell on it."
RP: Who's your biggest fan?
SB: I don't know—most of my fans tend to be of average weight.
RP: When is your new book coming out?
SB: The new one won't be out for quite a while. It depends
on how well my current one does.
RP: You mean, "When You See A Sacred Cow, Milk it for All It's
Worth."
SB: Yes. And if you're reading this, your assignment is
to ask for it at a bookstore, because when you ask for the book, it's inevitable
that the bookseller is going to laugh. If they don't laugh, they
may be suffering from humoroids or have irony deficiency.
Swami Beyondananada's Ten Guidelines for Enlightenment
1. Be a FUNdamentalist -- ensure that the Fun always comes
before the Mental. Realize that life is a situation comedy that will
never be cancelled. A laugh track has been provided and the reason
we are put in the material world is to get more material. Have a
good laughsitive twice a day, which will ensure reguhilarity.
2. Remember that each of us has been given a special gift
just for
entering, so you are already a winner!
3. The most powerful tool on the planet today is Tell-A-Vision.
That's where I tell a vision to you and you tell a vision to me.
That way, if we don't like the programming we're getting, we can change
the channel.
4. Life is like photography -- you use the negative to develop.
No
matter what adversity you face, be reassured: Of course
God loves you...He's just not ready to make a commitment.
5. It is true: As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts,
thought
particles tend to get caught between the ears and cause a condition
called "truth decay". Be sure to use mental floss twice a day, and
when you're tempted to practice 'tantrum yoga', remember what we teach
in the Swami's Absurdiveness Training Class: DON'T GET EVEN, GET
ODD.
6. If we want world peace, we must let go of our attachments and
truly live like nomads. That's where I no mad at you and you no mad
at me. That way there'll surely be nomadness on the planet.
Peace begins with each of us. A little peace here, a little peace
there. Pretty soon all the peaces will fit together to make one big
peace everywhere.
7. I know great earth changes have been predicted for the
future, so if you're looking to avoid earthquakes my advice is simple:
When you find a fault don't dwell on it.
8. There's no need to change the world. All we have to do
is toilet
train the world and we'll never have to change it again.
9. If you're looking for the key to the Universe I've got
some good
news and some bad news.
The bad news: There is no
key to the Universe.
The good news: It was
never locked.
10. Finally, everything I've told you is channeled.
That way, if you
don't like it it's not my fault. But remember: Enlightenment
is not a
bureaucracy, so you don't have to go through channels.”
Ask for "When You See A Sacred Cow, Milk it for All It's Worth"
at your local bookstore. The Swami will be very happy and so
will you!
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