The MT&F Interview: James Barrineau

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High jumper Barrineau was born June 25, 1955. He produced a stunning world masters record of 6-11 (2.11) in July 1995 at the WAVA world veterans championships in Buffalo, N.Y., beating old rival Dwight Stones in the process. Back in 1976, two days after turning 21, Barrineau joined Stones on the U.S. Olympic team, eventually taking 11th in that rain-sodden Montreal event. Flopper Barrineau reached his PR of 7-6 1/2 (2.30) in 1983, when he ranked sixth in the USA. He now lives in Burke, Va., a suburb of Washington, where he's the chief of force integration for the Army National Guard at its headquarters in Arlington, Va. He's a lieutenant colonel (expecting promotion to colonel) in the Oregon National Guard on full-time duty in Virginia. Ken Stone conducted this Q&A via e-mail in April 1997.

QUESTION: Masters compete for many reasons: to stay in shape, relive their younger glory, go for records. What's YOUR motivation to continue jumping?

ANSWER: Competing, especially in an event that requires a large measure of mental concentration and intensity, is an experience that I find missing from other parts of my life. It is extremely satisfying to be able to conjure up these emotions/feelings. I would not call that reliving past glory, because it is not connected to the past. High jumping and masters track and field in general tend to bring people together with a common interest. It is a real bonus when you run into old friends and competitors from my open days. Competition in championships "primes the pump" for the rest of my normal activities. It provides a rush that can be replicated in few places.


Your 2.11 at Buffalo was considered a highlight of the 1995 World WAVA meet. How much of a surprise was it? Had you come near that height in recent past?

I have stopped surprising myself these days. I had had a pretty dismal season up to that point, with only two meets all season, both indoor (NH at 2.00 in a college meet and 1.95 in Reno). I had no expectations, but knew if there was serious competition anything was possible. High jumping is pretty much a mental game. If your mind can connect with the body properly, you can find "the zone." That is exactly what happened that day in Buffalo. I am convinced that great performances are in all of us and all it takes are the proper conditions to make it happen. Buffalo had it all: a great venue, good weather, relaxed atmosphere, family, friends, and all the attention focused on my primary target, the Big D. The focus for me was not a particular height, but keeping the pressure on Dwight. Drawing a position in the jumping order ahead of him was fortunate. Keeping focused, relaxed and hydrated during the long competition was also key. One miss early on could have decided the competition. I count that competition second in intensity to the 1976 Olympic Trials among competitions I've been in. Going back to the first question -- this is what it is all about.


Do you still have a shot at 7-0? If you aren't the first master over 7-0, who do you think will be? Who are the top prospects?

Anything can happen, but I don't see it. The heavens would definitely have to be in perfect alignment for me to crack 2.14. There are simply too few opportunities and too many great jumpers getting older fast. Carlo Thranhardt is my pick to be first. Jacek Wszola may have a shot, but he will have to make steady improvement from his 2.01 in England and do it fast. Then there is always the possibility of someone coming out of left field like Thomas Zacharias did at the 50 age group.


How significant was the 2.00 jump by the German, Thomas Zacharias? Does this put the M50 record out of sight for many years?

I would not call it "Beamonesqe," but it is significant. I don't think anyone will challenge that record for 8 or 10 years. 2.00 is still a pretty significant jump at 40. It will be very, very tough for ANYBODY at 50.


Where do you plan to compete this year?

I had held off committing to Durban until after Boston. I had some very good attempts at 2.05, enough to see some hope. I'm still not confirmed as I need to get out of a military school commitment to make the trip. So Durban and San Jose will probably be it.


This year seems a watershed in masters T&F with the 30th annual USATF masters nationals coming up, a WAVA meet in South Africa and masters turning in world-class results, such as (submaster) Mary Slaney and Yekaterina Podkopayeva, 44, of Russia. Do you think masters track is poised to explode in popularity and acceptance?

The popularity of track and field has become so diluted in recent years that I can't say as there will be an explosion in popularity. The best open competitors will only do masters if there is money. There is no money unless you can dupe some investors into paying the premium on an insurance policy. I'm talking about track and field in general, not the distance running side where races from the mile on up (primarily road) can mean big bucks. The sport from youth through masters needs a boost, but open track and field -- which gets the most visibility -- must be made healthy again. Indoor track has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel in this country. I certainly don't have the answer to the problem, but there should be some smart folks out there who might. Part of the answer will be money. It seems that sports with big money attract big followings.


USATF recently elected a new masters chairman, Ken Weinbel. He hopes to boost the sport by finding corporate sponsors to underwrite events. What other goals should he pursue?

If he is successful in getting money, it will attract more stars. The stars will do what is necessary to reap the dollars which means more money will be needed for drug testing (year round -- unannounced, as well as at meets). It could also mean the possible exclusion of those who are nowhere near masters world class. Are we prepared to go down that road? I still cannot quite picture a USATF Masters Championships full of Arnold Palmer and Lee Trevino types. As mentioned before, the venues for the showcasing of masters track are dwindling quickly. Open track needs attention first in this triage.


Senior golfers and bowlers have their big-money tournaments. Do you think prize money for elite masters T&F athletes is possible in the near future?

See my comments above. It is already there for distance runners. Opportunities may be there, but the money will have to be big. It still hurts a little to know I can never come close to my PR again. I think it hurts the former big stars even more. There is an ego factor at work here. And lets face it, when was the last time you saw a golfer or bowler grab his/her hamstring? Nuff said on that.


What, besides prize money, would help induce current world-class athletes to continue competing past 40?

Appearance fees and more prize money.


Would you like to see the Olympics schedule a masters competition, perhaps on the rest day (as I've proposed on my Web site)? If yes, how could we accomplish this?

I have a special reverence for the Olympics. We had our shot. I would settle for something on the rest day of the open world championships.


Are you satisfied with the USATF/WAVA framework? Or should masters have their own separate organizing body, especially in the USA?

I'm really not familiar enough with the current apparatus to comment.


Masters athletes frequently train in isolation, mainly because they're unaware of each other. Would you favor USATF opening up its membership rolls, and allowing masters to learn address/phone information about their fellow athletes?

Personally, that would not benefit me because of my schedule (I don't train most of the time), but it might benefit others.


Among current masters athletes, any age group, whom do you most admire?

The ones I most admire are the ones who have had to overcome the most adversity to compete.


What's the best masters record, in your opinion?

Ray Kimble's triple jump from 93. (Kimble is credited with a 54-4 3/4 jump in 1993 at age 40, and had a wind-aided leap that year of 55-8 1/4) The triple is an incredibly pounding event. It puts a 7-foot high jump to shame.


Many athletes and track fans have questioned the 5.50 vault claimed by Larry Jessee of El Paso. The jump makes him the first master over 18 feet. USATF says it has no reason to doubt the paperwork submitted, and thus has ratified the mark as a masters WR. Do you believe Jessee jumped 18 in August 1996?

Putting the necessary scrutiny on each and every world record is probably not practical in today's environment. I would venture to say that many performances/records on the books today (mostly open) are tainted to some degree. We do the best we can do with the resources available to ensure fair assessments of records. USATF says it's a record --its a record. Nuff said on THAT one.


Some track observers think drug use is seeping into masters track. Have you seen any evidence of this? What should be done?

No, I have not. Repeating: Bring in the money, the drugs will follow.


How can the Web help advance the interests of masters track?

By encouraging discourse like this. Maybe someone will hit on a bright idea to help the sport.


What's the future of masters track?

It will follow the fortunes of open track. Once again we need to nurture the seed corn first - youth, high school, college, open.


What's YOUR future in masters track? Do you see yourself still jumping in 20 or 30 years?

Absolutely. High jumping is a "fix" I need on a regular basis.


Barrineau, 40, sets world masters high jump record of 6-11 at Buffalo, N.Y., beating his former nemesis, Dwight Stones, who jumped 6-9 3/4 (2.08m). Jim also won USATF National Masters Indoor titles at 6-9 in March 1995 and 6-6 in March 1997. (Photo by Marlene Sachs for National Masters News)